[Trade] Bouwmeester to Blues for conditional 2013 1st, Cundari and goaltender Reto Berra

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Byron, Butler, Cundari, Berra!

Feaster's legacy.

Only an idiot would not fire him.

Since we are cleaning house Ken King needs his ass canned also.

[JiriHrdina]

Flames scouts were split on which goalie was the best outside the NHL - Ramo or Berra.
If you believe him.

[Yoho]

Love the First rounder, this draft is going to be awesome

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Wow - I'm beginning to think that the only way people on here would consider a trade as "good" if we traded Tim Jackman for Sidney Crosby.

We ARE dealing with reality here, folks --- dropping salary, all of it in JayBo's case is HUGE for this team. That provides them with ample opportunity to hit the FA market on July 1.

That, in and of itself, is a big change.

have you seen the crop of ufa agents this year?

I'm going to guess you have not.

Management sacrificed better prospects in return for saved $$$, plain and simple

[kirant]

Originally Posted by Ring of Fire

For comparison, Brian Campbell was traded for Rostislav Olesz ($3 million in dead cap space). I know Campbell had more years left on his deal, but to get a 1st rounder for an extremely overpaid defenceman isn't the worst return for Bouwmeester.

By comparison, the 'hawks were also in cap hell, right? That would make the Panthers able to dictate the trade. That's probably also a consideration.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by ClubFlames

LOL, Cundari is already being called 'fat' because he is 5'10" and 200lbs. Two inches taller and he would have been considered a dman with size. Oh no, how will he fill the shoes of our great #1 dman who 90% of the forum crap on, on a nightly basis. Some posters think it's just Feaster who has locked himself in a room and making all the decisions. It's a management decision from pro scouts to Conroy to Weisbrod giving their input.

Anyways, excited about Flames possibly having 3 first round picks this year or 2 first rounders next year.

Excuse me if I don't have a lot of faith in our super scouts in terms of the prospects that we picked up in this and Iggy's trade.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Yamer

See, the problem (at least for me) is looking at some of the historical returns for players of the same caliber that have been sold on the market this year. Yes, I get that values change, but under no circumstances would I believe that these have been fair market values for JayBo and Iggy.

Fair Market Value is defined as the price agreed to by unrelated parties.

QED

[ComixZone]

NTC/NMC "you're not dealing with 29 other teams - you're limited with who you can deal - Bouw's list was a bit broader, but teams on his list could not make his salary work next season"

[kn]

Originally Posted by calgARI

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Flames go hard after both MacKinnon and Drouin, stocking up picks so they can get two high picks like Burke did with Sedins.

And that would have been possible with THREE GUARANTEED 1st Round picks in 2013!

Frck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dino7c]

18 goals -38 with the Flames

3 years at 6.8 million

oh my god! we only got a 1st and a couple average prospects lol

[nik-]

Originally Posted by mac_82

Feaster: the goaltender made a big difference. One of the two top goalies not in the NHL (other is Ramo)

hahaha

We just keep getting the best goalies not in the NHL. Amazing that other teams are so willing to just toss away these goalies.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

No. Doubt the kid ever makes the NHL

Great contribution. And you've made this assessment how?
Again just admit you know nothing about the player if that's the case.
Nothing wrong with that.

[mac_82]

Feaster: list of teams a bit broader (than Iginla). Financial deal tough for teams to absorb.

[danny darko]

"Mark Cundari could quite possibly be the best defensemen in the Blues' minor league system" - Hockeysfuture.com

I get that the guy isn't a household name but come on... We just got our third 1st round pick and a defense prospect with some potential for a guy most people wanted to buy out and cut loose for nothing at the start of the season.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

The Blues are overpaying...in salary.

Man, so did we..

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Feaster is high up on Berra.

Flames scouts said last summer Berra and Ramo were the two best goalies outside the NHL.

He said the same about Cervenka.

[stignasty]

"We had multiple offers for him [Boumeester]."

"There was plenty of interest in the player, but it's not just the player, it's the contract too."

States that he's not dealing with 29 teams. It's a limited market because it's a short list of teams because of NT/NM and the size of the contract.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Feaster is high up on Berra.

Flames scouts said last summer Berra and Ramo were the two best goalies outside the NHL.

wow, we are building the best roster filled of players that were "the best outside of the NHL".

Maybe feaster and the flames need to put more emphasis on the word OUTSIDE rather than BEST in that statement.

[Erick Estrada]

I just don't understand this conditional 1st round pick business. Now the fate of the Flames is out of their hands here. IMO that's dumb.

Again the two prospects aren't even regarded as top 10 in the Blues system so I hope the Flames amateur scouting knows something everyone else doesn't.

[kyuss275]

Listening to Feaster now on tv. He keeps bringing up the money aspect. Have to presume that ownership did not want to eat salary.