[News] Bouwmeester admits Flames have approached him about trade

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

You go aftter Frk, ifg you have a chance at either of Drouin or Mckinnon, Frk is a guy you want too. Big body, can skate, sees the ice very well, bomb of a shot and can take draws. Oh, and has the chemistry with those 2 already.

Mckinnon or Drouin + Frk and Beartschi and Neiderieter or Rattie if possible... damn ...

Frk looked like the second coming of Kotalik in the THN draft preview. Det has more attractive prospects that we would want.

[Badger Bob]

Originally Posted by calgARI

Well there is still a year until the Olympics and Team Canada would be crazy not to at least consider Bouwmeester.

Maybe, but there weren't impressed last time around.

[trackercowe]

Is Jaybo really considered a rental though? Beyond the extra year on his contract, there's a very good chance he'l re-sign with the team we trade him too. Reason I say that is obviously with his NTC, he can choose his destination, so there is going to be a preference on both ends to make the deal.

I will be a very disappointed man if the deadline passes and Bouwmeester is still on this roster. His value it at its peak right now, and will be much lower in the off-season if he regresses and when the cap is lowered next season. We lost value in trading Iginla after waiting too long, please don't let that happen again!

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Man Mach. You REALLY hate the guy a lot.

I think she just loves winning more.

No team aside from one of his seasons when he was 9 years old has ever won anything or even been slightly successful.

This man represents everything that is wrong with the Flames. Soft, doesn't hit, low hockey IQ. If you're a fan of winning and the Calgary Flames then you should want Bouwmeester off this team.

[trackercowe]

I also wonder if he'll do whatever it takes to preserve his iron man streak. It's going to be difficult to keep it in tack if they don't arrange his trade properly. He also might be unwilling to sit out a game to remain healthy.

He's 11 games away from moving into the 5th spot all time, and 345 away from Jarvis' all-time record. I don't know if Jay really cares that much about it, but it will ruin any new fans perspective drinking games if the trade doesn't get handled properly.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I also wonder if he'll do whatever it takes to preserve his iron man streak. It's going to be difficult to keep it in tack if they don't arrange his trade properly. He also might be unwilling to sit out a came to remain healthy.

I think maintaining the Bouwmeester iron-man streak is only a couple of spots above the "Flames are the only team to never draft in the Top 5" in terms of priorities for this team. A neato stat for sure, but it should never get in the way of anything resembling a real hockey decision.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I think maintaining the Bouwmeester iron-man streak is only a couple of spots above the "Flames are the only team to never draft in the Top 5" in terms of priorities for this team. A neato stat for sure, but it should never get in the way of anything resembling a real hockey decision.

I agree that the team doesn't care, but does Bouwmeester himself? With his NTC he really holds all the cards right now, so if they don't keep him happy he may not consider all the various trade offers.

Like I said though, that's if he even cares.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I think maintaining the Bouwmeester iron-man streak is only a couple of spots above the "Flames are the only team to never draft in the Top 5" in terms of priorities for this team. A neato stat for sure, but it should never get in the way of anything resembling a real hockey decision.

I don't recall any other GM in Flames history that has pulled players out of the lineup because of a trade, let alone two...and struggle to recall any other GM doing that to a top line player.

Is Feaster that paranoid? Or easily impressionable that he'll do whatever another GM asks?

Sutter infamously semi-traded Jokinen in principal, but wanted him to play the next day so the Flames weren't short, and Jokinen played that game.

Bourque didn't sit out that game when he got traded, but got pulled obviously mid game.

Iginla's was the fact that it seemed to be happening that evening, but then, I think because of the Pittsburgh, not Boston thing. Not sure why it was announced at 11:45 at night, when it could've been done the next morning, not that it matters.

Long story short, I don't see any reason to sit a guy like Bouwmeester, or at least leave it up to the player, if he's not getting traded that night no matter what.

Likely all moot...one more game, tomorrow, that the Flames have before the deadline.

[Machiavelli]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I agree that the team doesn't care, but does Bouwmeester himself? With his NTC he really holds all the cards right now, so if they don't keep him happy he may not consider all the various trade offers.

Like I said though, that's if he even cares.

I could actually see that being important to him, as opposed to....you know...winning.

Either way, no reason to healthy scratch him as he's shown he's unwilling to use his body to sacrifice for the team such a rock physically.

[JiriHrdina]

I think scratching iginla was sensible. If he gets injured you get nothing for him. If Bouw gets injured you still have him next year. They knew he was going to either destination so why risk it

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Is Jaybo really considered a rental though? Beyond the extra year on his contract, there's a very good chance he'l re-sign with the team we trade him too. Reason I say that is obviously with his NTC, he can choose his destination, so there is going to be a preference on both ends to make the deal.

I will be a very disappointed man if the deadline passes and Bouwmeester is still on this roster. His value it at its peak right now, and will be much lower in the off-season if he regresses and when the cap is lowered next season. We lost value in trading Iginla after waiting too long, please don't let that happen again!

I would bet the house on Bouwmeester moving by the deadline. I would actually bet the house if I owned one.

[Savvy27]

Originally Posted by browna

I don't recall any other GM in Flames history that has pulled players out of the lineup because of a trade, let alone two...and struggle to recall any other GM doing that to a top line player.

Is Feaster that paranoid? Or easily impressionable that he'll do whatever another GM asks?

Bruins GM Chiarelli pulled some guys out of the line up too, so I don't think it is a matter of Feaster being overly impressionable. If I have the timeline right, Boston and Calgary thought they had a deal around noon, so if Iginla would have accepted the trade to Boston he probably wouldn't have been Flames property by game time.

[Fire]

I would be very disappointed if Bouwmeester is still a member of the Flames after the deadline. He's not a winner, can't see him ever making an impact in the playoffs. I want to see guys with Chris Pronger's mental makeup on this team.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Fire

I would be very disappointed if Bouwmeester is still a member of the Flames after the deadline. He's not a winner, can't see him ever making an impact in the playoffs. I want to see guys with Chris Pronger's mental makeup on this team.

He has high value in the summer too, though its debateable whether the extra time will mean more or less teams will be interested. With not that strong a UFA class, you'd assume more, including teams not needing that playoff push right now.

But the teams willing to pay more now to get that guy for the playoffs, may not be offering the same package at a point when all teams are tied for the 2014 Stanley Cup.

Then, will he waive in the summer to go to a team that's not a guaranteed contender?

Tough call...in no way/shape/form does Feaster give him away for nothing now. Though you never know if Feaster will even have the chance to trade him away in the summer/at the draft, either and may do whatever deal he can now for the sake of a deal to not have the lack of trading Bouwmeester being held against him at the end of this year.

Lots of factors due to the chaos and uncertainty all over the place in the organization right now. I personally think he is gone by Wed.

[flames_fan_down_under]

I think it's smart to move bouwmeester as any return for him is positive in my opinion.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

I think it's smart to move bouwmeester as any return for him is positive in my opinion.

I understand that some people feel this way about him - hi Mach - but he has value. And not only does he have value but there are three major opportunities to trade him: the deadline, the summer draft, and next year's deadline. So if the return isn't there, it would be foolish to just dump him.

The Flames have to get some value back for their assets - if not, we'll be the Oilers, waiting for draft picks to lift us out of oblivion

[Table 5]

Yeah, as much as glacially slow our management was in coming to terms with our craptastic team, they shouldn't race to the polar opposite of things end and hit the panic button. While they need to look at moving Bouwmeester, they don't have to dump him for any dufus deal that comes along. They do have time to be a little patient with that one.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Yeah, as much as glacially slow our management was in coming to terms with our craptastic team, they shouldn't race to the polar opposite of things end and hit the panic button. While they need to look at moving Bouwmeester, they don't have to dump him for any dufus deal that comes along. They do have time to be a little patient with that one.

They kinda already did that with Iginla. I believe Feaster could have waited until the real trade deadline and got a better return.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Yeah, as much as glacially slow our management was in coming to terms with our craptastic team, they shouldn't race to the polar opposite of things end and hit the panic button. While they need to look at moving Bouwmeester, they don't have to dump him for any dufus deal that comes along. They do have time to be a little patient with that one.

Unless Bouwmeester has asked to be traded, and isn't going to be all that patient about it. In that case they need to move him before he reaches the end of his rope and makes his request public (Eg Heatley) which would really lower his value.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by saillias

They kinda already did that with Iginla. I believe Feaster could have waited until the real trade deadline and got a better return.

And I believe the only team he would be willing to move to may have moved on