[Trade] Iginla to the Pens for Agostino, Hanowski, 2013 1st - Page 78 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Armchair Quarterback · 03-28-2013, 06:39 AM

Just heard the news this morning, haven't had a chance to read this entire massive thread. Quick thoughts:

1. Suddenly all of the haters on here love the guy, no surprise there. I'd like to know who people identify with on the team now. It's a hollow feeling for me. Iggy didn't get the respect he deserved this last season and it's because some people on here would have probably sold their own mother for a rebuild.

2. Not the greatest return I expected but given that Feaster is our GM and everyone knows we are desperate for an Oilers-style rebuild, nobody should be surprised.

3. There will be a lot of people eating their words on here when the team continues to play badly or worse now that Iginla is gone.

Owee18 · 03-28-2013, 06:53 AM

I for one hope he comes back and resigns here in the summer. Hate me or not the team IS not the same without him and all the fans have nobody they can identify with on the team.With getting extra peices from all coming trades he will be a solid 2 or 3rd liner.

JohnnyB · 03-28-2013, 06:53 AM

I was a little down when I saw he'd been traded to Boston, but as soon as the news changed to Pitts I was delighted. I barely even care what the Flames got back. I'm just excited to see Iggy playing with Crosby and having a great chance to win the cup together. My two favorite players are going to be going for a cup run together on what is probably my second favorite team in the league.
That's great news!

Poe969 · 03-28-2013, 06:55 AM

At this point, I'm excited that we got a "better" return from the Pens and I'm excited that Iggy gets to play on a world class team.

I'm just excited this team is making changes!

Regular_John · 03-28-2013, 06:57 AM

Man I still can't believe it ended up being Pittsburg in the end, yeah I know they were always on "the list" and everyone remembers the golden goal. But the whole Crosby/Iginla thing seemed more like NHL 13' fantasy trade than a real possibility.

Kinda bummed actually, I was excited by the prospect of Iggy in Boston, but seeing him go to the Penguins just seems like the rich getting richer, like that organization gets all the breaks.

Torch · 03-28-2013, 06:59 AM

I've been on the trade Iggy podium for four years. Iggy thank you for being a great sportsman and good luck in the future.

I'm super excited to see what young guys with drive and vigor can do.
All the haters out there, it's a new day in flames hockey.Lets build a winning atmosphere.

Truly exciting times to be a flames fan.

calgARI · 03-28-2013, 07:02 AM

I didn't hate the trade a few hours ago but I do now. I don't understand how you can't wield a higher level prospect for Iginla. So many rentals over the years have gotten significantly more in return. Feaster is a terrible GM. Sutter got things started making this organization completely inept but Feaster is dramatically accelerated that process. This team is going to be very very bad for a long time.

cDnStealth · 03-28-2013, 07:02 AM

Wow.... feeling pretty empty right now...

When I went to bed last night I assumed there wouldn't be any more news. Waking up this morning and seeing that he had been traded I can honestly say that I am shocked. At least he's headed to the Pens. I think I'll be buying a Penguins jersey with Iggy's name on it for the playoffs.

Thanks for all the memories Jarome! I hope you come back and finish your career here some day.

Rocky Raccoon · 03-28-2013, 07:04 AM

I don't like the return, I feel that one of the prospects the Flames got should have been a better prospect; however, the only thing that truly upsets me is that the Flames aren't cleaning house on management as well.

We went through the Sutter years where he basically only drafted Canadians, from Western Canada if possible, and who were grinders to Weisbrod pitching only college players in Feaster's ear. We get it, you came from the NBA where 99% of the players come from college. Obviously this is likely somewhat of an exaggeration but I have zero confidence in management restructuring this team as a winner; if the Flames become a winning team, it will be despite management.

Alberta_Beef · 03-28-2013, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocky Raccoon

I don't like the return, I feel that one of the prospects the Flames got should have been a better prospect; however, the only thing that truly upsets me is that the Flames aren't cleaning house on management as well.

We went through the Sutter years where he basically only drafted Canadians, from Western Canada if possible, and who were grinders to Weisbrod pitching only college players in Feaster's ear. We get it, you came from the NBA where 99% of the players come from college. Obviously this is likely somewhat of an exaggeration but I have zero confidence in management restructuring this team as a winner; if the Flames become a winning team, it will be despite management.

So you are suggesting the Flames clear house of the management staff a week before the trade deadline? Talk about making it impossible for a new regime to take over.

Also you do know Weisbrod was a pro hockey player himself right? And he was the head scout for the Devils before he ever worked in the NBA. In fact he only ever got a job in the NBA because the IHL team he was running was shut down and the ownership moved him to the NBA team they owned.

Flame Of Liberty · 03-28-2013, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Josh Yoyo, Penguins beat writer: (@JoshYoyo_Trib)

"Recently asked a member of Pens organization to give me top 10 prospects in organization. Neither Agostino nor Hanowsi made the list".

Fantastic.

pfft I'd take the opinion of Feaster and Weisbrod who built a bottom of the conference team over some member of a competently ran organisation.

Hockeyguy15 · 03-28-2013, 07:17 AM

Bring on the next chapter!

Thanks for all the memories Iggy, now go and win us a cup with the Pens!

I'm not sure why some people are down on the trade. Iggy got to pick which deal we got, so Feasters hands were tied. The price on the open market for Iggy would have been bigger, but since there were only 3 teams in the running that limits his value. It's either take what they offer you or lose Iggy in the offseason for nothing, you are crazy to not take anything.

If you don't like this trade you are simply not thinking with your head, you are thinking with your heart. Iggy had to be moved, and he had to be moved before the deadline so we have time to move other peices of the team.

Resolute 14 · 03-28-2013, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nemanja2306

Well, considering that they gave Joe Morrow straight up for Brendan (draft picks are basically a wash), and considering that Iginla >>>> B. Morrow, it's not crazy to assume that Pens would need to add (at least) a 1st to get Iginla. Morrow was also a rental (so same situtation), and despite Iginla being a better player, he got less in return?

I doubt you will find one single person in hockey who considers a swap of a third round pick and a fifth round pick "a wash". The plain truth is that B. Morrow wasn't wroth J. Morrow straight up, and Dallas had to top it off with the swap of picks.

SoCalFlamesFan · 03-28-2013, 07:22 AM

Getting a 1st round pick, even a late one, for a three month rental of a perimeter player (not the player he was, the player he is now) who's 35 is a steal.

Sad to see Iginla go for sure. But in reality the Flames need to rebuild. This is a quality start.

SuperMatt18 · 03-28-2013, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by calgARI

I didn't hate the trade a few hours ago but I do now. I don't understand how you can't wield a higher level prospect for Iginla. So many rentals over the years have gotten significantly more in return. Feaster is a terrible GM. Sutter got things started making this organization completely inept but Feaster is dramatically accelerated that process. This team is going to be very very bad for a long time.

Considering all three rumored offers were poor I think the market just wasnt there. Same as with Nash last year, teams just are not willing to move top prospects any more.

They knew the Flames had limited offers and took advantage of that.

As an aside does anyone think Feaster was the sacrifical lamb here... by all accounts King, Edwards, Weisbrod were all heavily involved in the deal but it will Forever go down as Feaster who traded Iginla.

Would not be at all surprised if this was Howson like situation and a new GM is brought in with a clean slate in the offseason.

nemanja2306 · 03-28-2013, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

I doubt you will find one single person in hockey who considers a swap of a third round pick and a fifth round pick "a wash". The plain truth is that B. Morrow wasn't wroth J. Morrow straight up, and Dallas had to top it off with the swap of picks.

They're not a wash, but the difference between a third and fifth does not equal the difference in value between J. and B. Morrow. IMO, an overpayment by the Pens.

North East Goon · 03-28-2013, 07:24 AM

Ha, woke up to the news of it being Pittsburgh and the return seems even worse. Oh well, at least a new era dons for the Calgary Flames.

FlamesAddiction · 03-28-2013, 07:28 AM

I went to bed angry about the Boston deal only to find that it got a little worse by morning. I do like that the 1st rounder is guaranteed, but the prospects we got back are not of consequence. They are the types of players that are easily drafted or signed. You can get these types of assets relatively easy. This trade is Iginla for a late 1st as far as I am concerned.

Also, I just frinckin hate the Pens with all of my being. Give me the Bruins any day over them. I hate their uniforms and their stupid logo. I hate Matt Cooke. And most of all, I hate that Iginla is going there.

Poe969 · 03-28-2013, 07:28 AM

I'm honestly happier with both the return we got for Iggy and the team he's on now than I was with the bruins "deal".

I think more deals will come and I'm happy for what Iggy's done and happy that he's gone at the same time.

I like this deal.

Galakanokis · 03-28-2013, 07:35 AM

Perfectly content with this. Sure it would have been nice en to get more but the market just wasn't there and deep down I think we all knew that. We could have gotten nothing for him and people would still be up in arms.

Iginla had to go, the fact that we got assets in return is a bonus. This is what happens when players control the trades, he went where he wanted to and we took what we could get.

Good luck Jerome, it has been fun.

Go Flames Go!