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Old 03-28-2013, 12:53 AM   #1361
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I'm confused. What bar was this guy at in 2004?
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:53 AM   #1362
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I'm confused. What bar was this guy at in 2004?
limericks?
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:54 AM   #1363
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Can we go back in time and trade Iggy for Brayden Schenn straight up now?

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Old 03-28-2013, 12:54 AM   #1364
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Stop the bleeding, pat.
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:54 AM   #1365
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Seems if all the player have found out its now official and are tweeting their respects:

Mikael Backlund ‏@mbacklund11 3m All the best and good luck to #Iggy! Tough to c him leave... Great guy who will be missed in the room! #classact
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:54 AM   #1366
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Not a fan of this trade, but maybe that's all Iginla was worth and we were all overvaluing him, or perhaps he did force the trade? Either way it just seems that this ends up happening in all Flames trade deals. Have we actually won a trade since trading for Kiprusoff? And yes I am aware we were always going to "lose" this trade by dealing the better player, but the same can't honestly be said for the Morrow or Murray trades.

Maybe these college guys will turn out, but at least today they aren't near the top of Pittsburgh's top assets. During all all of our previous trade discussion I doubt one poster even mentioned the names Agostino and Hanowski. Heck you probably could have gone through ten Penguins prospects before you found these guys.

Realistically though I am all for any change, but it better not stop here. Trading Iginla alone might seem like a vast change for this team, but there are still 5-6 players on the roster who should me moved if the Flames want to shake things up going forward.
I believe that to be the case. The precedent for rentals is pretty well established and this is just another example. Teams simply don't trade top prospects for a few months of a player. They'll trade picks and sometimes lesser roster players, but I can't think of any recent examples of a very good already drafted prospect being traded for a rental.

It's not that Feaster screwed up or the Flames management are idiots; that's just the reality of the market, especially when you're bound by a NMC. Guys like Hossa and Kovalchuk could be auctioned off to anyone and even they mostly returned crap outside of the 1st round picks. And it's even tougher when you only have a maximum of 3 potential destinations.

It's become pretty clear that if you want to get maximum value for a player you have to trade them with some term left on their deal.
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:54 AM   #1367
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Oh man, this is bad.
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:56 AM   #1368
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Can we go back in time and trade Iggy for Brayden Schenn straight up now?

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Bueller...? Bueller... Bueller?
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:56 AM   #1369
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Can we go back in time and trade Iggy for Brayden Schenn straight up now?

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No because back in time we were in the playoff hunt.
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:57 AM   #1370
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At least they could have made us feel better by sending a 6th round pick to Dallas for the rights to Angelo Esposito and then putting that into the package going to the Flames.
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:57 AM   #1371
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Hah, can we go back in time and do the Boston deal?
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:59 AM   #1372
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Hah, can we go back in time and do the Boston deal?
with the conditional pick
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:59 AM   #1373
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Hah, can we go back in time and do the Boston deal?
sorry man I need a feel better break for a second

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Old 03-28-2013, 01:00 AM   #1374
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I wish Pat would lose it one time and tell some of these idiot callers to shut the #### up. That would be awesome.
I think Rob Kerr did this once.
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:02 AM   #1375
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HAHAHA that last caller... wow
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:02 AM   #1376
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Steinberg sounds like he's ready to lose it
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:02 AM   #1377
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lol what is wrong with these callers
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:02 AM   #1378
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this is pretty hilarious
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:02 AM   #1379
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WTF was that last call? lol!
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:02 AM   #1380
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LOL, Pat is giving up on life right now.
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