03-26-2013, 10:17 AM
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#1121
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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 Roger Millions @RogMillions
Need to dispel a rumor. Iginla NOT in Boston today. Here in Chicago with #Flames as usual. Who knows maybe later. Yes Iginla here.
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03-26-2013, 10:19 AM
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#1122
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
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I think it's a fair deal...but I don't see the prospect being A-grade if there's an established roster player in the deal... Well, maybe with Tanguay in there as well, I guess that's different...my point is, I hope Feaster focuses on acquiring he highest grade of futures possible, as opposed to established players with a limited upside... I'd prefer to have the outside chance that Iggy is traded for a future franchise player... Or, at least, all-star calibre player... It's worth the risk.
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03-26-2013, 10:20 AM
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#1123
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear
How would you enforce that? The team could pass on his services this season and then sign him as a UFA.
I think the return is only for Iginla as a rental...and I think the return will be better than nothing (and him staying) but will be less than most Flames fan hope.
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You'd enforce it with conditional picks in the deal (if he re-signs where he's traded we get an extra pick).
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03-26-2013, 10:21 AM
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#1124
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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If it's Chicago, I hope its not McNeil. Flames seem to always be drawn to players of his type. We should shoot for higher than him, someone with a higher upside.
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03-26-2013, 10:23 AM
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#1125
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Iginla + Tanguay
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Lucic + Peverley
Anyone need to add?
Marchand - Bergeron - Seguin
Tanguay - D. Krejci - Iginla
D. Paille - C. Kelly - Horton
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03-26-2013, 10:24 AM
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#1126
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Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear
How would you enforce that? The team could pass on his services this season and then sign him as a UFA.
I think the return is only for Iginla as a rental...and I think the return will be better than nothing (and him staying) but will be less than most Flames fan hope.
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Iggy can demand to only waive his NMC clause provided the team that acquires him signs him to an extension
Or include conditional picks in the deal (Pitt just did this with Douglas Murray)
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03-26-2013, 10:25 AM
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#1127
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear
How would you enforce that? The team could pass on his services this season and then sign him as a UFA.
I think the return is only for Iginla as a rental...and I think the return will be better than nothing (and him staying) but will be less than most Flames fan hope.
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Answer: Conditional assets in the trade. We have seen multiple variations of conditional rental player trades that could include playoff success or re-signing conditions.
For example we could structure the trade like this:
To Boston:
Iginla
To Calgary:
2013 1st round pick
Spooner
2014 pick (1st round if Boston wins the cup, 3rd round if they make the conference finals)
2014 pick (2nd round if Boston re-signs Iginla, otherwise nothing)
Usually you only see one conditional item in a trade but the example makes the point.
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03-26-2013, 10:27 AM
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#1128
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Abbotsford, BC
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Originally Posted by Muta
If it's Chicago, I hope its not McNeil. Flames seem to always be drawn to players of his type. We should shoot for higher than him, someone with a higher upside.
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Agreed. I feel like we already have what could turn out to be a Mark McNeil in Bill Arnold. I could be wrong, but he didn't wow me in the World Juniors when he played this year.
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03-26-2013, 10:28 AM
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#1129
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Iginla + Tanguay
for
Lucic + Peverley
Anyone need to add?
Marchand - Bergeron - Seguin
Tanguay - D. Krejci - Iginla
D. Paille - C. Kelly - Horton
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If the Flames could pull that off I would be estatic. I don't see Boston doing it.
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03-26-2013, 10:28 AM
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#1130
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Muta
If it's Chicago, I hope its not McNeil. Flames seem to always be drawn to players of his type. We should shoot for higher than him, someone with a higher upside.
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Problem is if it's a trade with Chicago, McNeil & Teravainen are probably their top slated prospects at the moment... unless they'd part with Saad, but I doubt that.
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03-26-2013, 10:30 AM
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#1131
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Iginla + Tanguay
for
Lucic + Peverley
Anyone need to add?
Marchand - Bergeron - Seguin
Tanguay - D. Krejci - Iginla
D. Paille - C. Kelly - Horton
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the only way that would work is if Iginla signs a new contract with Boston.
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03-26-2013, 10:31 AM
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#1132
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Personal opinion here but I do not want that greasy slime ball Marchand anywhere near the Flames.
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On a recent trip to Rome I managed to meet and start "partying" one night with some good looking girls from Halifax. They were big hockey fans (one of their brothers used to play in the Q) and we started talking about players from Nova Scotia, and they ended up knowing quite a few of them through their brother, etc. They had mostly good things to say about everyone, except Brad Marchand. They let me in a number of "local legends" regarding Marchand, I won't get into the gritty details as I can't confirm them, but needless to say if true the man has zero class/respect for himself and possibly severe drinking issues as well.
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03-26-2013, 10:32 AM
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#1133
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Originally Posted by squiggs96
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hahahaha. like anyone believed Pollock's insider at the phone company story. haha
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03-26-2013, 10:33 AM
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#1134
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cambodia
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I could see us getting conditional picks based on playoff success, but I don't think Iginla's agent would advise him to waive his NTC if there are conditional picks based on him re-signing because that would hurt his value as a free agent.
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03-26-2013, 10:36 AM
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#1135
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by Icon
Problem is if it's a trade with Chicago, McNeil & Teravainen are probably their top slated prospects at the moment... unless they'd part with Saad, but I doubt that.
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If we're getting TT as well as part of a package, then fine.
However, Ray Shero has set the trade market panic level to 'bat sh*t crazy', so I want Calgary to fully bend someone over and buttsecks them for all they are worth. McNeil isn't the sticky, messy finish we're looking for.
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03-26-2013, 10:37 AM
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#1136
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
If the Flames could pull that off I would be estatic. I don't see Boston doing it.
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I don't either, it's not like they need a "shake-up" trade. But even at their current ages, Iginla and Tanguay are a better offensive combo than Peverley and Lucic.....plus the Bruins still have their Bergeron/Krejci/Kelly "battery" down the middle, and young stars in Marchand and Seguin up front, with Spooner and Khokhlachev on the way.
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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied
the only way that would work is if Iginla signs a new contract with Boston.
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I agree, and if they could get him extended to a fair deal I think Boston has to add. Something like a conditional pick.
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03-26-2013, 10:39 AM
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#1137
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Muta
If we're getting TT as well as part of a package, then fine.
However, Ray Shero has set the trade market panic level to 'bat sh*t crazy', so I want Calgary to fully bend someone over and buttsecks them for all they are worth. McNeil isn't the sticky, messy finish we're looking for.
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Did um you spend some time in the big house?
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03-26-2013, 10:41 AM
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#1138
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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To Chicago:
Iginla
To Calgary:
2013 1st round pick
Teuvo Teravainen
Dylan Olsen
C'mon Feaster make it happen
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03-26-2013, 10:47 AM
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#1139
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Abbotsford, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genetic_phreek
To Chicago:
Iginla
To Calgary:
2013 1st round pick
Teuvo Teravainen
Dylan Olsen
C'mon Feaster make it happen
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After watching him this weekend, I'd like to see Pirri coming our way.
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03-26-2013, 10:48 AM
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#1140
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genetic_phreek
To Chicago:
Iginla
To Calgary:
2013 1st round pick
Teuvo Teravainen
Dylan Olsen
C'mon Feaster make it happen
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You didn't spell Brandon Saad right
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