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Old 03-25-2013, 01:52 PM   #821
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[QUOTE=miraisoup;4153259]Discussion from hockey central about iggy.

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Old 03-25-2013, 01:54 PM   #822
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The apoligize if this is fata...haven't read the whole thread.

with both Detroit and Anahiem both scheduled to play here in Calgary one more time this season, Iggy decided not to put them on his list?

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The apoligize if this fata...haven't read the whole thread.

with both Detroit and Anahiem both scheduled to play here in Calgary one more time this season, Iggy decided not to put them on his list?
There is no actual list or at least no actual list that the public knows about. It started with one guy making it up and the rest of the media hopping on board pawning it off as "confirmed" and all that nonsense. I can say with a fair amount of certainty that while I'm sure Iginla is very sentimental about the Flames, fans are far more sentimental about him than he is the Flames. There is no way he would keep a team off his list because he would have to play the Flames once.
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Boston isn't going to trade a guy that will replace Chara when he's gone.

Reverse roles right now.

Would you trade Hamilton for 2 months of a rental ? I know I wouldn't even consider it.
If the Bruins are convinced that Iginla gives them the best chance to win another Cup, then it's easy to decide which is more valuable. Remember Brett Hull was once Flames property, and trading him got valuable pieces for the '89.
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Tried for Brad Richards, tried for Ryan O'Reilly, and got Olli Jokinen, and Alex Tanguay twice, whom Iginla has said is one of the best people he ever played with.

... and that's just the people we know of. Probably could have done more, but I don't know if it was a lack of effort. Lack of competence/scouting/something else? Could be... but if he's sticking it to the organization for that reason, that'd be pretty bad.
Yep. The wellspring of talent in any organization is drafting. Iginla can resent the Flames for drafting poorly. But moving the deck chairs around with trades and UFA signings (and the Flames have done a lot of that since 2005) rarely turns around a team's fortunes. And I have a feeling Iginla wouldn't have been on-board with genuine re-tooling moves that saw his friends moved out for picks and prospects. Look at how he responded to Conroy leaving. If anything, it was desperately trying to keep the team around Iginla a 'contender' that has left this franchise in the state it's in.

The writing has been on the wall with this organization for three or four years. If Iginla was as self-delusional as upper management about the prospects of this team, well, that's on him.
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If the Bruins are convinced that Iginla gives them the best chance to win another Cup, then it's easy to decide which is more valuable. Remember Brett Hull was once Flames property, and trading him got valuable pieces for the '89.
Right, but the Bruins have a GM who stole candy from a defenseless child with the Kessel deal. He's no fool, which is the kind of GM who gives up a 19-year old defensemen with top pairing potential for a mid 30's player who might play 25 games for you. If anything Chiarelli will end up fleecing Feaster if Iginla gets dealt to Boston.
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Anyone else worried Feaster and his stupid smugness are going to play these teams/GMs against each other in search of the best deal and end up with a crap deal or being forced to keep him even?

This is not an easy situation and I don't trust Feaster to handle it properly at all.
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I fear that they will price themselves out of any deal and shoot themselves in the foot.
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the deadline is over a week away...I hope Feaster has more patience than most of you
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I fear that they will price themselves out of any deal and shoot themselves in the foot.
That is a fear of mine as well, but there are still 9 days left. The window has not closed and there's really no reason to be concerned yet.

I'd rather him start high to test the waters and have to come down in price then start at a price everyone is willing to pay right now and not know what we could've gotten.
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the deadline is over a week away...I hope Feaster has more patience than most of you
Completely agree. However I would like to see the team make 6 to 7 different trades prior to the deadline. Starting now makes it more likely that the team is overhauled.

I think people are also hung up on this teams lack of direction. It is still very possible that Feaster adds rather than blows it up, damn that is scary!
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Right, but the Bruins have a GM who stole candy from a defenseless child with the Kessel deal. He's no fool, which is the kind of GM who gives up a 19-year old defensemen with top pairing potential for a mid 30's player who might play 25 games for you. If anything Chiarelli will end up fleecing Feaster if Iginla gets dealt to Boston.

I am not sure I would classify Burke as that, and I am not a fan.
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eklund seems to think hawks are in the lead in the Iginla sweepstakes..imagine him in a hawks uniform for tomorrows game..
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:48 PM   #834
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Right, but the Bruins have a GM who stole candy from a defenseless child with the Kessel deal. He's no fool, which is the kind of GM who gives up a 19-year old defensemen with top pairing potential for a mid 30's player who might play 25 games for you. If anything Chiarelli will end up fleecing Feaster if Iginla gets dealt to Boston.
He also got fleeced in the Kaberle trade by the same defenceless child. But they won the cup so who cares.
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Anyone else worried Feaster and his stupid smugness are going to play these teams/GMs against each other in search of the best deal and end up with a crap deal or being forced to keep him even?

This is not an easy situation and I don't trust Feaster to handle it properly at all.
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Completely agree. However I would like to see the team make 6 to 7 different trades prior to the deadline. Starting now makes it more likely that the team is overhauled.

I think people are also hung up on this teams lack of direction. It is still very possible that Feaster adds rather than blows it up, damn that is scary!
I would like to see Feaster make a smaller deal (like a Sarich or a Stempniak) to get things going.

Sometimes being singularly focused on one big event can cause you to get stuck in a rut, so to speak, and become paralyzed to other action.

When I was a trader, and I had been focused too much on a single big trade, my CIO would make me pull the trigger on something - anything - immediately, simply to get me out of the rut. It always worked.
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This team is (possibly) on the cusp of blowing up the roster, trading away the best goaltender ever to wear a Calgary Flames jersey, and the best player to ever wear one, the player that has been the face of this team for about a decade, defined it, and set most every record for it; records that have a good chance of never being broken in our lifetimes. All this discussion and rumours are going down after years of this team giving a lackluster showing to fans, providing little enough to cheer for, and after a handful of eyebrow raising decisions made by two different GMs. And now we have only a single week to mull over what may be one of the most bittersweet moments in this franchise's history -- the trading away of the aging soul of the Calgary Flames in return for the next generation.

I think a certain level of anxiety and impatience is to be expected from this fan base right now.
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So, best case scenario - trade him at the deadline for some nice draft picks and prospects. Proceed to re-sign him as a UFA to a hometown discount?
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So, best case scenario - trade him at the deadline for some nice draft picks and prospects. Proceed to re-sign him as a UFA to a hometown discount?
As an Iggy fan, I think this would be a fun solution, but really this team needs to move on, and resigning Iggy means this organization probably won't be able to do that.
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I listened to Lebrun on the tsn radio, and he definitely said pitt is going for it, and they will do pretty much anything to win this year. He said Jarome is still a possibility for pitt.
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As an Iggy fan, I think this would be a fun solution, but really this team needs to move on, and resigning Iggy means this organization probably won't be able to do that.
Agreed, while I am a fan, and like Iggy, it really is time to move on and get better.

I don't think signing him in the summer would be a wise move, unless we are talking 4th line monies.
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