[PGT] Flames 3 Stars 4

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by moon

Got lucky?

Seriously people are still trotting this garbage out after loses this year.

Originally Posted by JayP

The Stars outshot the Flames 12-5. They outchanced the Flames 12-3 (according to Flames Nation). It's hilarious that this somehow counts as a lucky start. We got dominated and were lucky to be down only 3-0.

Did you not see how Dallas opened the scoring? Off Smith's skate? What the heck is that, a goal scorer's goal?

In a one goal game, every goal matters. Damn right that was lucky.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by jergreen

Link to an interesting read.

http://www.gladwell.com/2000/2000_08_21_a_choking.html

Made me think of the Flames right away. When the pressure is off ie. everyone is writing them off, they play great. When they get with in a game or so of 8th it all falls apart.

There was another thread about how "choking" or being "clutch" is a myth. Once the sample sizes are large enough, players and teams always revert to their historical averages.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...ht=clutch+myth

[timbit]

Getting lucky when you are dominating the opposition is not an uncommon occurrence.

Getting unlucky when you are being dominated by the opposition is not an uncommon occurrence.

Could easily have been worse after the first period.

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by timbit

2nd worst goals against in the NHL?

Each and every player and coach on the team owns a piece of that.

That stat does not have a lot to do with skill.

A lot to do with winning battles, puck races, work and compete level. Oh and one more thing, mental toughness.

In your opinion, why have the Flames so consistently lacked that (mental toughness, at least) since Sutter went upstairs?

I know you aren't Iginla's biggest booster at the best of times but he's been the one constant since that time. Any correlation?

[jergreen]

Originally Posted by troutman

There was another thread about how "choking" or being "clutch" is a myth. Once the sample sizes are large enough, players and teams always revert to their historical averages.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...ht=clutch+myth

I missed that thread.

I was thinking this team was different when Jay Boumeester of all people scored on Chicago with 90 seconds left in the game. But like the team they are Chicago scored in those 90 seconds and won the game in OT. (or shootout, I don't remember)

Then I started to think about this team and its pretty much been he same pattern for the last couple of years. Start slow, get written off, make a comeback, and when it looks like they are going to finally make the play-offs they lose to teams they shouldn't and they finish in the worst position possible. No play-offs, low draft picks.

This has happened several years in a row, to the point I stop writing it off as a coincidence.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

In your opinion, why have the Flames so consistently lacked that (mental toughness, at least) since Sutter went upstairs?

I know you aren't Iginla's biggest booster at the best of times but he's been the one constant since that time. Any correlation?

I won't speak for timbit, but I think that correlation is pretty definitive at this point.

It's an uncomfortable thing to say on this board.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Did you not see how Dallas opened the scoring? Off Smith's skate? What the heck is that, a goal scorer's goal?

In a one goal game, every goal matters. Damn right that was lucky.

They also had a post which could have gone in... how lucky for the Flames it didn´t.

When you outchance your opponent like the way Dallas did you do have a lot better chance of getting those bounces. Bounces happen every game and usually the better team gets them.

[l33t_hax0r]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Did you not see how Dallas opened the scoring? Off Smith's skate? What the heck is that, a goal scorer's goal?

In a one goal game, every goal matters. Damn right that was lucky.

Watch the replay. Smith played it really poorly, effectively kicking it into his own net. That wasn't a lucky bounce, it was a bad decision.

[EddyBeers]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I won't speak for timbit, but I think that correlation is pretty definitive at this point.

It's an uncomfortable thing to say on this board.

Those are fighting words, I blame Tim Jackman for the complete lack of mental toughness on the Calgary Flames.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by l33t_hax0r

Watch the replay. Smith played it really poorly, effectively kicking it into his own net. That wasn't a lucky bounce, it was a bad decision.

Dallas got lucky that Hartley dressed Smith.

This place is zany. Can't admit that Dallas got lucky

[l33t_hax0r]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Dallas got lucky that Hartley dressed Smith.

This place is zany. Can't admit that Dallas got lucky

The quality of your argument speaks for itself