03-12-2013, 11:17 AM
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#401
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Originally Posted by l33t_hax0r
I think Burke would do reasonably well at liquidating assets and setting a new vision for the club, but it's a fantasy to think this can all go down in a matter of a couple weeks. There's just not enough time for all the pieces to fall into place prior to the deadline. Whoever will be handling our trade deadline is already in the organization, be it Feaster, Weisbrod or otherwise.
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IF Burkie ever comes to this team you can bet he's already got a plan in place for the deadline and draft. IF the rumours of him being I interviewed are true, I'm assuming he would be laying that plan out in front of owners as we speak. He's a known commodity in the NHL, has relationships and contacts across the league. He could jump into the frying pan and start making moves to better this team very quickly.
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03-12-2013, 11:19 AM
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#402
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Zulu29
IF Burkie ever comes to this team you can bet he's already got a plan in place for the deadline and draft. IF the rumours of him being I interviewed are true, I'm assuming he would be laying that plan out in front of owners as we speak. He's a known commodity in the NHL, has relationships and contacts across the league. He could jump into the frying pan and start making moves to better this team very quickly.
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He is the only guy out there that could step in right now and take over for trade deadline. Other than him, like another poster said , it will be Feaster or Weisbroad.
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03-12-2013, 11:19 AM
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#403
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: BELTLINE
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Originally Posted by Zulu29
Didn't improve them? They went from bottom feeder to playoff(looks like it) team in his tenure. More than you can say for this management group.
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I said he didn't improve them that much, they're definitely better (interestingly a lot better after he left) but I just don't see Burke as the silver bullet here. He also would NEVER take this job if he had to follow orders from KK and crew.
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03-12-2013, 11:24 AM
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#404
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Maybe the Burke rumor isn't true but it would be strange if they didn't bring him in at some point to interview him for a position. He is still one of the best Hockey executives in the league. Adding Burke to the organization makes it stronger overall.
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If there was truth I am surprised the Flames would be able to keep things quiet as Burke is employed by the Ducks so people in that organization would be aware and there seems to be no leaks from that side.
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03-12-2013, 11:24 AM
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#405
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Just kickin around the net looking up potential GM's. What about Mike O'Connell? Former GM of the Bruins, currently in pro development with the Kings. Traded Jumbo Joe to the Sharks for a questionable return but drafted two awesome centremen in Bergeron and Krecji.
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03-12-2013, 11:26 AM
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#406
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First Line Centre
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I don't think Brian Burke knows how to build a Cup winning team (he has no idea how to acquire a capable #1 goalie and add secondary scoring). But Burke would be an upgrade over Feaster, and for that, I would fully support the firing of Feaster and the hiring of Burke. With that said, I don't think Burke is coming here unless he is made President or be in a position where he gets full autonomy.
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03-12-2013, 11:28 AM
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#407
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
If there was truth I am surprised the Flames would be able to keep things quiet as Burke is employed by the Ducks so people in that organization would be aware and there seems to be no leaks from that side.
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Damm you and your voice of reason.  The only reason i keep coming on CP is the small bit of hope that ownership has finally come to their senses and are going to make the changes necessary to go forward.
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03-12-2013, 11:29 AM
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#408
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Lifetime Suspension
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Burke would be good to steward the inevitable firesale and asset accumulation, that would be why you'd bring him in. Can't afford to screw it up.
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03-12-2013, 11:37 AM
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#409
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dammage79
I more surprised with the lack of any movement right now. Outside of the O'Reilly offer sheet there has been squat (I don't count McGratton as it was a nothing move really).
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Pure speculation, but it may be that the organization has put a freeze on until they decide how to move forward.
I would hope that they have done so.
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03-12-2013, 11:37 AM
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#410
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
What are you basing this on? Look at his work in Vancouver and Toronto. There is a good book on GMs called Behind the Moves which has a lot of content on Burke and his views. I am comfortable suggesting you explore these before making such a declaration
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He came into Toronto, a team who at the time was in a similar situation to us(consistently in no man's land) and went on about how he was "here to win" and wouldn't wait...and I can't remember but didn't he say something to the effect of if they haven't made the playoffs within X years he's done his job wrong?(could be completely wrong, but that comes to mind from somewhere). He made blunder after blunder in TO, and "his" team only looks good now because they have a coach in Carlyle who similarly to Tippet knows how to make any team competitive.
In addition, he's an ardent believer in "the eye test" as opposed to applying advanced statistics in player evaluation, and the whole sporting world is moving in that direction as it's proving to be more effective than the former. The way of the future lies in statistics and having a backwards man run the club is the last thing we need.
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03-12-2013, 11:38 AM
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#411
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Burke would be good to steward the inevitable firesale and asset accumulation, that would be why you'd bring him in. Can't afford to screw it up.
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Exactly.
I also think he would have a strong and clear vision going forward.
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03-12-2013, 11:40 AM
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#412
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinordi
Burke would be good to steward the inevitable firesale and asset accumulation, that would be why you'd bring him in. Can't afford to screw it up.
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Didn't he screw up Toronto?
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03-12-2013, 11:42 AM
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#413
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Didn't he screw up Toronto?
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You tell me. I don't think so.
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03-12-2013, 11:45 AM
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#414
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Burke would be able to stave off the vultures surrounding this team right now.
I was wondering also if maybe Feaster has been hounding the phones a lot but just cannot break through on a deal and has hit a wall. maybe thats the problem as well. Just can't get a deal good enough to pull the trigger. Partly because he may feel like he is dancing on eggshells when it comes to dealing the core. Values are set too high in house?
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03-12-2013, 11:47 AM
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#415
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Burke wouldn't stave off othe vultures, he'd call them up and make them pay to take what they want....that's what this team needs.
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03-12-2013, 11:47 AM
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#416
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Didn't he screw up Toronto?
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His big screw up was the Kessel trade there is no doubt about that. The Lupul/Gardiner, Phaneuf deals were great. Certainly not all of his moves were great but he did change the culture of that team that appears to be on the right track today.
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03-12-2013, 11:48 AM
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#417
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
His big screw up was the Kessel trade there is no doubt about that. The Lupul/Gardiner, Phaneuf deals were great. Certainly not all of his moves were great but he did change the culture of that team that appears to be on the right track today.
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The Schenn JVR trade was good as well.
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03-12-2013, 11:49 AM
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#418
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Burke would be able to stave off the vultures surrounding this team right now.
I was wondering also if maybe Feaster has been hounding the phones a lot but just cannot break through on a deal and has hit a wall. maybe thats the problem as well. Just can't get a deal good enough to pull the trigger. Partly because he may feel like he is dancing on eggshells when it comes to dealing the core. Values are set too high in house?
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Agree with the first bold.
Don't agree with the second - I am concerned about the opposite: Feaster not getting enough for our assets.
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03-12-2013, 11:50 AM
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#419
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Scoring Winger
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Has this rumor been confirmed?
Lord let something good happen to the Flames, they are a mess and need serious new direction. Bring on Burke...
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03-12-2013, 11:50 AM
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#420
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Didn't he screw up Toronto?
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Toronto looks a whole lot better than the Flames right now.
In hindsight the Komisarek signing was bad, as was the Kessel trade. His other moves don't look too bad though and his drafting was fine.
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