[News] Flames offersheet O'Reilly UPDATE: Avs match

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Joborule

Rather have a shot a franchise player in this draft than throw it away for O'Reilly. Don't like this.

The thing is where the flames ever going to have the shot at a franchise player? Ownership mandate is to compete now. That's not changing whether we like it or not. The odds were pretty high that they would be buyers at the deadline to make sure they could sneak in.

I can't say i like the direction of the team but until one of us comes up with $300 million there is not much we can do about it.

Now that this has happened we need to win to make sure they are not getting a good draft pick. Flames can always make trades at the draft to recoupe a pick.

[Rapidfire999]

If we fail to make the playoffs then I hope we trade Bo, Gio, Iginla, and Kipper.

[djsFlames]

YES!!!!

Feaster finally pulled his head out of his behind.

Fantastic move, even if COL matches. Definitely worth a try.

But if we lose our 1st, they're going to need to pull a biggy to recoup that. They'll HAVE to.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Not necessarily. The trade deadline is 40 days before the last day of the season. Normally that's in late February but in Olympic years it usually gets pushed into March.

In 2010 it was Feb 28th, so it will be close but its s till adds to the gamble, the potential that Colorado can't trade him during his contract will give Sherman something to think about.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by stang

Has to be 2013



What? I thought it was going to be 5 over 5 of something like that. Seems weird for 2 years. I dunno. Initial reaction was good move, I'm just wondering.

You post was basically "this is a bad move but on the other hand.... It's actually a bad move". Then acting like you don't know what you did.

Classic troll, stang.

[Igottago]

I guess this means we can all start hoping the Flames actually win games this year (rather than some of us hoping for the tank job).

Gutsy move by management. I don't know how its gonna work out, but this was a big play.

[Miniac]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

My bet when Backlund comes back that Cammi is gone

Cammi or Stempniak

[chalms04]

@fan960walker
As if this day couldn't make #Flames fans puff out chest any more.... Was just told by source that #Canucks also issued Offer sheet.


Okay, scrap what I said before... Turned down the Canucks? I like this guy.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

I am not a fan of this overall, because even while we need a player like O'Reilly in our lienup, history has shown that players simply don't live up to RFA offer sheets. And since he hasn't been playing this year at all, it is unlikely he will be in the kind of game shape to make an immediate impact.

I'm on the fence, but there's such a small sample size of offer sheets, I don't know how much stock I'd put in that. Conversely, the Flames being absolutely garbage at the draft and never being bad enough to get a surefire franchise player, history shows we'd blow the 1st rounder anyways.

[sun]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

I agree, it is impressive. However, he has NEVER scored more than 19 goals professionally or in junior. You don't pay a top flight defensive centerman $6.5 M per year. What's worse is what are you paying him when he is 28? $8M?

Someone compared him to Conroy. Great comparison. That's what he is and there is nothing wrong with that. But you don't pay him $6.5 M.

Out of thanks, but you have a good point. It's definitely a risky move, but I like it. Hopefully he shows last season wasn't a fluke and he's just a late bloomer.

I still think they match though.

[Bezer]

Effff ya@#$#$

[_Q_]

I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the TSN hype machine of draft day, but the hard-on for draft picks is ridiculous. Look at every previous draft in history (except for 2003) and there usually has been a total of 2 or 3 guys out of the first round that are legitimate all stars and maybe 10-20 guys total in the whole draft that are regular contributing NHLers for their teams. If our first round pick ended up turning into a decent 2nd line centre at the age of 20 with the potential to become a first liner in a few years, I would be elated. This is why, I love this move and hope Colorado doesn't match.

[Miniac]

Originally Posted by chalms04

@fan960walker
As if this day couldn't make #Flames fans puff out chest any more.... Was just told by source that #Canucks also issued Offer sheet.


Okay, scrap what I said before... I like this guy.

I hate those damn canucks

[Nehkara]

Ryan O'Reilly Faceoffs:

2011/12 - 1443 faceoffs, 52.8%
2010/11 - 1025 faceoffs, 51.8%
2009/10 - 1014 faceoffs, 47.8%

He is gradually improving and taking more draws.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

In 2010 it was Feb 28th, so it will be close but its s till adds to the gamble, the potential that Colorado can't trade him during his contract will give Sherman something to think about.

The deadline was on March 3rd in 2010. The Gold Medal hockey game was on Feb. 28th, so the trade deadline certainly wasn't that day.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by browna

Agreed. Outside of the minor moves, his big trade had Cammalleri landing in his lap because of his behavior the day before in Montreal. I don't think he can pull anything off because he's not part of any of the GM circles and there's also a reason he didn't get a sniff of a GM or assistant GM job for 2-3 years after GM'ing Tampa.

Feaster has been in GM circles for a decade and a half, and in his time as Flames GM alone, has made deals with 12 different franchises. I think there are reasons for people to dislike Feaster that don't require making things up.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

Look at the standings. We are without Kipper and Backlund and are 3 points out of the playoffs.

It is a longshot we pick top 3 to begin with.

Now we add a top young centre (not a shot at a top young centre like a draft pick is, a proven top young pivot)... and we get kipper back.

You're just not looking at the big picture.

The opportunity to trade what will likely be a top 10-20 pick for one of the proven best young defensive centres in the game is a very good calculated risk.

It's a move that helps the team now, and gives them a top young 22 year old centre to build with for the future.

No but we could have traded Iggy and/or Kipper which a) would have got us more picks/young players and b) would increase the odds of top 5 pick.

Now that is off the table and Iggy and Kipper aren't getting any more valuable.

This is a bad move.

I'd take a top 10 pick (minimun) and the return from Iggy and/or Kipper this season (assuming Kipper gets it together after injury) over O'Reily any day of the week.

Now we're either losing Jarome for nothing or extending him.

[CaramonLS]

IMHO O'Reilly is a less talented version of Ryan Kelser. He doesn't quite have his skill level or play making ability. That doesn't project to be a top line centre.

Is that worth a First, Third and the Money (lots of people seem to be forgetting about the $$$)?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Miniac

I hate those damn canucks

He signed the Flames contract instead of the Canucks one.

Guys got my vote.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

Best part to me is that IF Colorado matches, $6.5 will be the starting point for his new contract at the end of 2014. Starting point. With Stastny and Duchene already making that, it'll be interesting to see how the Avs respond.

Calgary can afford it. Love the move. I love you Feaster.

I can safely say they will not be calling Calgary to help them out if the decide to match. They would probably trade Stastny for a 7th round pick before calling Calgary.

Won't matter no chance Av's match.

O Reilly is a flame in 7 days.