Fortunately for them offense isn't the only aspect of an effective hockey team. Hey, they aren't a great team right now and, much like most other teams in the league, they have a few glaring holes that need to be shored up. However, they have a pretty exciting base to build from and there's no justifiable reason to think that they can't or won't improve.
Anyone who neglects the potential capabilities of that team, both in talent and convertible assets, needs to address issues of denial.
Well I should hope they have some convertible assets with that many first overalls, I think people are just surprised that it's taking so long to get going, and the Oilers still don't have a true dominant player like say the Hawks have with their first round franchise players in Kane, Toews ect. who were pretty much always no doubters.
Well I should hope they have some convertible assets with that many first overalls, I think people are just surprised that it's taking so long to get going, and the Oilers still don't have a true dominant player like say the Hawks have with their first round franchise players in Kane, Toews ect. who were pretty much always no doubters.
Count me in that group....to an extent. One could argue that Chicago provided these standouts with a better supporting class, mostly due to more competent management and leadership behind the bench. Edmonton seems content in front loading and poaching other teams' assets (Vanik, Penner, Schultz).
Either way, it has to be disappointing for fans to not witness the explosiveness that followed teams like Chicago, Anaheim, and Pittsburgh after landing several key picks to bolster their rosters.
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I would say 2 to 4 games. If clutterbuck did this to Hall we would call it a goon hit in a skill player and people would be screaming for 10 to life. Hall needs to be more responsible as those hits are so dangerous.
Don't kid yourself Hall did this at the end of the game, and got into it with the reporter after the game because he's frustrated with his own play, and realizing the "ceiling" on his game is getting lower and lower .
The ceiling on his game is getting lower in a year where he is averaging over a point a game and playing decent overall hockey?
Just don't get the hate for Hall on here while Eberle who is playing much worse continues to get undeserved praise.
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Well I should hope they have some convertible assets with that many first overalls, I think people are just surprised that it's taking so long to get going, and the Oilers still don't have a true dominant player like say the Hawks have with their first round franchise players in Kane, Toews ect. who were pretty much always no doubters.
I don't think it should be that surprising at all since Chicago surrounded its high picks with talented players and the Oilers have surrounded their with crap.
The Oilers don't have a defenseman close to Keith or Seabrook, don't have support players in the realm of Bolland, Hossa, Sharp, Versteeg and don't have competent goaltending.
They put up big numbers playing meaningless games and run and gun hockey...now they are trying to win some games and they are near the bottom of the league in offence. Not scared
You forgot to mention how awesome they were in the AHL while losing games.
The sport of hockey is reckless and hip checks are legal, he didn't hit him in the knee, he hit his thigh. Legal hit.
He hit him in the thigh, another legal place to hit a player. What Clutterbuck is doing isn't illegal but it will be factored into the equation if the league reviews it. You have no facts, the contact was made between Halls hip and Clutterbucks thigh.
Kneeing doesn't mean you hit a guy in the knee any more than high sticking means you hit a guy in the stick.
I don't think it should be that surprising at all since Chicago surrounded its high picks with talented players and the Oilers have surrounded their with crap.
The Oilers don't have a defenseman close to Keith or Seabrook, don't have support players in the realm of Bolland, Hossa, Sharp, Versteeg and don't have competent goaltending.
Toews and Kane wouldn't flounder like these 3 regardless of the supporting cast they can actually manufacture there own scoring chances, big difference
Toews and Kane wouldn't flounder like these 3 regardless of the supporting cast they can actually manufacture there own scoring chances, big difference
That's a convenient opinion that can't really be disproven, can it? However, even a dimwitted fan like me knows that having a good supporting cast and great dmen always helps out offensively.
Count me in that group....to an extent. One could argue that Chicago provided these standouts with a better supporting class, mostly due to more competent management and leadership behind the bench. Edmonton seems content in front loading and poaching other teams' assets (Vanik, Penner, Schultz).
Either way, it has to be disappointing for fans to not witness the explosiveness that followed teams like Chicago, Anaheim, and Pittsburgh after landing several key picks to bolster their rosters.
I would say it has to be more than disappointing. A major factor in the success of Chicago and Pittsburgh was that they were able to win with a few of their star players still playing out their ELCs. The Hawks were able to sign Hossa in large part because they were getting such a bargain from the play of Toews, Kane and Keith. The Oilers are rapidly burning valuable years off of these ELCs in meaningless seasons in which they appear no where even close to competing for a playoff berth, to say nothing of winning a championship. Next year, they will have two more years of Yakupov on his rookie contract, $6.0 m cap-hits for both Eberle and Hall, and Nugent-Hopkins and Schultz each set to sign their first big-money contract, all in a season in which team spending is restricted by the new CBA.
The Oilers look like they will likely finish in the bottom-third again this year, and that has to be considered borderline disastrous with what they have to show for their planning and efforts of the past four years.
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Yeah I would say the actual hit is fairly similar although this incident Porter at least contacts a player with posession of the puck. If this is 4 games you have to give Hall more for a more predatory act on a defenseless player. However we have seen that the NHL justice system can be somewhat tiered depending on player's star status so I don't pretend to have a clue what Shanahan and Co. will come up with for a verdict.
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Basically Clutterbuck will distract the moron with a shiny object or a lighter and then beat him to death.
Clutterbuck has three fights in the last three years, two of them because Steve Ott does what Steve Ott does. He only really fought in one season.
I don't think it is false bravado to suggest that Clutterbuck isn't exactly a prime candidate to "get even" with his fists. The greater worry here would be Clutterbuck throwing like for like.
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Clutterbuck has three fights in the last three years, two of them because Steve Ott does what Steve Ott does. He only really fought in one season.
I don't think it is false bravado to suggest that Clutterbuck isn't exactly a prime candidate to "get even" with his fists. The greater worry here would be Clutterbuck throwing like for like.
Who gives a crap if he fights or not. He almost out hit the entire flames defense alone!
I hope when Bouma comes back he is half as good as Clutterbuck.
