OOT thread 10 games February 21, 2013

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I think Eberle is their best player and will turn out to be the better rounded player going forward.

It scares me that the entire group should only get better.

They put up big numbers playing meaningless games and run and gun hockey...now they are trying to win some games and they are near the bottom of the league in offence. Not scared

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Are you going to cry when the guy with the dislocated vagina beats Hall to pieces or smears him with a massive hit?

Ouch. thats what Oilstain's mom said when she had him.

Ugh. i want to puke after watching that highlight.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by dino7c

They put up big numbers playing meaningless games and run and gun hockey...now they are trying to win some games and they are near the bottom of the league in offence. Not scared

No kidding. Can't score 5on5 dropping like a rock and we are supposed to be scared? Koolaid for everyone!

[Erick Estrada]

Hard to say what the NHL will do because he's not been suspended before but IMO that should be 3-5 games. The puck was nowhere near Clutterbuck and if you are going to hand out big suspensions to Cooke for taking out defenceless players you have to at least give out a moderate one to a first time offender like Hall.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Kaine

Maybe true, but for as long as hockey has been around the onus has been on the player throwing the hit not the player receiving.

Same thing you see from defenceman all the time, someone comes across the line with their head down and you absolutely crush them, however if you hit them in a dirty manner you are at fault. It's the way it's always been.

I know you are trolling and I shouldn't feed you but there it is.

Hall was aiming for the hip, you can see how he leads into it with his own hip. Had Clutterbuck been watching and lower to the ice instead of straight legged and coasting it would have been harmless.

Oh ya I am "trolling" because my opinion is different than yours, good one.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I think Eberle is their best player and will turn out to be the better rounded player going forward.

It scares me that the entire group should only get better.

Maybe, but we've heard that about the Oilers every season since the last lockout.

If anything that forward group has regressed and are playing more as individuals then as part of a system or a team.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Oilers were back in last by the end of their 9 game road trip.

right now surprisingly the only thing preventing the Oilers for being truly bad at all ends of the ice is some pretty solid goaltending.

[Magnum PEI]

Wow that Semin pass is going to be on hilite reels for years.

[Henry Fool]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Hall was aiming for the hip, you can see how he leads into it with his own hip. Had Clutterbuck been watching and lower to the ice instead of straight legged and coasting it would have been harmless.

Oh ya I am "trolling" because my opinion is different than yours, good one.

Does it really matter what he was thinking? He went leg first. It was reckless.

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Hall was aiming for the hip, you can see how he leads into it with his own hip. Had Clutterbuck been watching and lower to the ice instead of straight legged and coasting it would have been harmless.

Oh ya I am "trolling" because my opinion is different than yours, good one.

No you are trolling because you ignore half of the post you are quoting, ignore facts (onus on the player throwing the hit regardless of your opinion) and just seeing what you want to see and stating it as fact.

Hall was not aiming for the hip, we have picture proof on the last page, go check. Again, what Clutterbuck was doing is irreverent, while stupid, it's not a penalty to skate with your head down or while looking in another direction.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Are you going to cry when the guy with the dislocated vagina beats Hall to pieces or smears him with a massive hit?

Buttercup better find someone to grind the weld off his gloves before we start talking fights.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Henry Fool

Does it really matter what he was thinking? He went leg first. It was reckless.

The sport of hockey is reckless and hip checks are legal, he didn't hit him in the knee, he hit his thigh. Legal hit.

Originally Posted by Kaine

No you are trolling because you ignore half of the post you are quoting, ignore facts (onus on the player throwing the hit regardless of your opinion) and just seeing what you want to see and stating it as fact.

Hall was not aiming for the hip, we have picture proof on the last page, go check. Again, what Clutterbuck was doing is irreverent, while stupid, it's not a penalty to skate with your head down or while looking in another direction.

He hit him in the thigh, another legal place to hit a player. What Clutterbuck is doing isn't illegal but it will be factored into the equation if the league reviews it. You have no facts, the contact was made between Halls hip and Clutterbucks thigh.

[mikeecho]

Totally a dirty hit from my perspective, but I have to ask... Where is all the rage that no one from the Wild jumped in and stood up for their teammate?

[Rejean31]

Think Hall should sit for 3-5 games for that dirty hit. Anyone who says it wasn't dirty must be a know-nothing Oiler fanboy.

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

The sport of hockey is reckless and hip checks are legal, he didn't hit him in the knee, he hit his thigh. Legal hit.



He hit him in the thigh, another legal place to hit a player. What Clutterbuck is doing isn't illegal but it will be factored into the equation if the league reviews it. You have no facts, the contact was made between Halls hip and Clutterbucks thigh.

When has what another player been doing ever been factored into a decision in this league? I won't argue that it should be but it isn't, and it won't. I think players that turn their backs to the player and face the boards when they know a hit is about to happen should be as much at fault if not more than the player "hitting from behind" but it's not the way it works. People will argue all day if it was dirty or not, regardless tho it was a stupid play by Hall. A very stupid decision to go through with a very ill advised hit. Either Hall targeted the knee or he is just one of the worst hitters to ever play the game.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Buttercup better find someone to grind the weld off his gloves before we start talking fights.

Ah false bravado I love it.

Basically Clutterbuck will distract the moron with a shiny object or a lighter and then beat him to death.

[killer_carlson]

Nhl will send a message with this one after the new CBA.

First time offender but will still get at least three and up to six games if clutterbuck is seriously injured.

Cheap hit.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

The sport of hockey is reckless and hip checks are legal, he didn't hit him in the knee, he hit his thigh. Legal hit.



He hit him in the thigh, another legal place to hit a player. What Clutterbuck is doing isn't illegal but it will be factored into the equation if the league reviews it. You have no facts, the contact was made between Halls hip and Clutterbucks thigh.

Does the video being replayed over and over constitute "facts" ,

[Henry Fool]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

The sport of hockey is reckless and hip checks are legal, he didn't hit him in the knee, he hit his thigh. Legal hit.
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You can argue that inside his muddled brain he intended to make a hip check but what he actually did was not a clean check by any stretch of the imagination. Players do have a responsibility to avoid dangerous plays like that.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

They put up big numbers playing meaningless games and run and gun hockey...now they are trying to win some games and they are near the bottom of the league in offence. Not scared

Fortunately for them offense isn't the only aspect of an effective hockey team. Hey, they aren't a great team right now and, much like most other teams in the league, they have a few glaring holes that need to be shored up. However, they have a pretty exciting base to build from and there's no justifiable reason to think that they can't or won't improve.

Anyone who neglects the potential capabilities of that team, both in talent and convertible assets, needs to address issues of denial.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

Think Hall should sit for 3-5 games for that dirty hit. Anyone who says it wasn't dirty must be a know-nothing Oiler fanboy.

Or have fashioned their own subjective opinion based on objective facts.

Although pretentiousness and condescension seems to flow pretty freely around these parts. Sanctioned and encouraged, too.