Unpopular opinions you have

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

Call Me Maybe is a harmless cute little song, and there's a lot worse music out there.

[polak]

Originally Posted by WilderPegasus

I suspect fotze's mom is a rather chaste lady and those who make jokes about her are the ones with whores for mothers.

Nice Try, Mrs. Fotze...

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by rotten42

Rap is not a form of music

Definition of Music:

The art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion.

-Rappers use there voices to say the lyrics they have written
-Rappers use instrumentals to recite their lyrics over
-Rappers put emotions and expression into there lyrics (listen to Immortal Technique's song "Dance with the Devil" if you think otherwise)

I'm sure you are purely basing this off of the majority of the crappy rappers out there but hip hop/rap music contains the requirement to be considered music.

[Wise Gamble]

CBS, NBC and the other major networks all have awful TV shows. HBO and Showtime are the only channels worth watching.

[WilderPegasus]

Originally Posted by Wise Gamble

CBS, NBC and the other major networks all have awful TV shows. HBO and Showtime are the only channels worth watching.

I'd add AMC and FX to that list with HBO and Showtime.

[Wise Gamble]

AMC isn't bad. I do like Breaking Bad and Mad Men.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

(listen to Immortal Technique's song "Dance with the Devil" if you think otherwise)

Unpopular (on the internet) opinion: Dance With The Devil is a bone-chilling masterpiece, but 90% of Immortal Technique's music is mediocre, and his obsession with conspiracy theories and 9/11 cover-ups makes him nearly un-listenable.

[blankall]

I see nothing wrong with forcing prisoners to work manual labour while they are in prison. Not only is it productive, but it allows them to pay for themselves. Plus you'd be surprised how little energy people have to join gangs, rape, deal drugs, assault others, etc... after a hard day of labour.

I understand the notion of civil rights, but prisoners, by definition, have already forfeighted many rights. The ability to integrate yourself into and maintain a regular work schedule should go a lot further than "good behviour" towards an early release.

[polak]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I think that all boy bands, girl bands and pop singers should be put in labor camps where they spend 10 hours a day manufacturing wallets for sale and another 3 in reducation classes that teach them that what they do isn't music its commercials for hair care products

As someone mentioned earlier, The Beatles were nothing more then a boy band. Michael Jackson was a pop singer...

[blankall]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Unpopular (on the internet) opinion: Dance With The Devil is a bone-chilling masterpiece, but 90% of Immortal Technique's music is mediocre, and his obsession with conspiracy theories and 9/11 cover-ups makes him nearly un-listenable.

Agreed.

Also, 90% of "conscious" hip hop is garbage. It's what I would call white boy rap for rich college kids. The truth is rap started out as a voice for poor kids in black ghettos and it's about crime and gangs. It's directed against white people. It's not suppossed to be politically correct. It's not suppossed to be about feminsism, equal rights, gay rights, etc...

Whenever I hear a leftist college kid going on about some conscious hip hip group, I want to punch them in the face.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by blankall

Agreed.

Also, 90% of "conscious" hip hop is garbage. It's what I would call white boy rap for rich college kids. The truth is rap started out as a voice for poor kids in black ghettos and it's about crime and gangs. It's directed against white people. It's not suppossed to be politically correct. It's not suppossed to be about feminsism, equal rights, gay rights, etc...

That's the thing about music though, it will eventually evolve. I bet if you when back in time and told the majority of 90's rappers that a white guy would become the highest selling hip hop artist of all time they would all laugh at you. You can't keep it the same of else it will become repetitive and boring.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by blankall

Agreed.

Also, 90% of "conscious" hip hop is garbage. It's what I would call white boy rap for rich college kids. The truth is rap started out as a voice for poor kids in black ghettos and it's about crime and gangs. It's directed against white people. It's not suppossed to be politically correct. It's not suppossed to be about feminsism, equal rights, gay rights, etc...

Whenever I hear a leftist college kid going on about some conscious hip hip group, I want to punch them in the face.

Conscious rap is generally terrible, but it's about 1 or 2 steps away from intelligent rap, which is awesome. The only "conscious" rapper that stands out to me is Talib Kweli, but only his first 2 albums really resonate with me.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by blankall

Agreed.

Also, 90% of "conscious" hip hop is garbage. It's what I would call white boy rap for rich college kids. The truth is rap started out as a voice for poor kids in black ghettos and it's about crime and gangs. It's directed against white people. It's not suppossed to be politically correct. It's not suppossed to be about feminsism, equal rights, gay rights, etc...

Whenever I hear a leftist college kid going on about some conscious hip hip group, I want to punch them in the face.

Key words are highlighted. Rap, like everything, has evolved.

[jammies]

What is conscious rap? Is that supposed to be "conscience"?

[blankall]

Originally Posted by valo403

Key words are highlighted. Rap, like everything, has evolved.

Yes, like all forms of music it has been taken from its roots and "evolved" into a radio-friendly shadow of its former self.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

That's the thing about music though, it will eventually evolve. I bet if you when back in time and told the majority of 90's rappers that a white guy would become the highest selling hip hop artist of all time they would all laugh at you. You can't keep it the same of else it will become repetitive and boring.

I'm pretty sure that was quite easily predictable. Black music always gets butchered into radio-friendly versions performed by high selling "edgy" white artists.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Definition of Music:

-Rappers use there voices to say the lyrics they have written
-Rappers use instrumentals to recite their lyrics over
-Rappers put emotions and expression into there lyrics (listen to Immortal Technique's song "Dance with the Devil" if you think otherwise)

I'm sure you are purely basing this off of the majority of the crappy rappers out there but hip hop/rap music contains the requirement to be considered music.

Where's the beauty (beauty of form)?

I do enjoy a lot of hip-hop. Most of the popular hip-hop I hear has the same formula - male boring rapped verses, female sung chorus with a hook, samples and no instruments.

The Roots do it right.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by jammies

What is conscious rap? Is that supposed to be "conscience"?

No. It's rap that is socially conscious. To be fair the term also can be used to include groups/artists like Public Enemy, 2 pac, Grandmaster Fash, etc.. who are most certainly genuine.

More recently, the term has been used by self-described conscious rappers who want to re-define rap from it's current stereotypes of gang-lifestyle, vioecne, misogyni, etc...What it really means is that people who aren't actually coming from a hip hop background are attempting to co-op the culture from it, while making up excuses for their total lack of street credibility or connection to the source material.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by troutman

Where's the beauty (beauty of form)?

I do enjoy a lot of hip-hop. Most of the popular hip-hop I hear has the same formula - male boring rapped verses, female sung chorus with a hook, samples and no instruments.

The Roots do it right.

There isn't suppossed to be a superficial beauty of form. The place it comes from is not beautiful.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by blankall

There isn't suppossed to be a superficial beauty of form. The place it comes from is not beautiful.

I take beauty to include truth, grace and humanity.