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Old 02-05-2013, 10:18 AM   #1181
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You don't want to get started on 9/11 again.

Alex Jones is a brilliant sales person but a false prophet
Alex Jones is not a "prophet" for 9/11 truth. The guy has a massive ego and likes to claim he is the "spearhead" of 9/11 truth, but in reality he is not.

Architects&Engineers for 9-11 Truth are my primary source right now, and they do an excellent job at evaluating the evidence. Hey Crunch you should head over there and review their articles shredding Popular Mechanics "debunking" efforts.

Not one poster on CP, including the science wizz Proton has made any coherent argument that can validate the US government official version of 9/11.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:18 AM   #1182
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He's great at identifying and exploiting an incredibly dimwitted portion of the population

Yup, much like Limbaugh, franken and dozens of others who identify a flaw in people then expolit that very flaw to make themslves pertinent in the eyes of their listeners/followers....and wealthy in the process.

Eklund is another example.
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I am against the idea of elected leaders being part of any secret societies. I know some facts about the Talmud. It seems to me the Talmud is pretty much the inverse of traditional christian morality, advocating such things as pedohpilia for example.
I'm pretty sure that's not in the Talmud.
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I'm pretty sure that's not in the Talmud.
Maybe he's trying to say traditional Christian morality advocates pedophilia???
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:26 AM   #1185
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I am against the idea of elected leaders being part of any secret societies. I know some facts about the Talmud. It seems to me the Talmud is pretty much the inverse of traditional christian morality, advocating such things as pedohpilia for example.
You obviously do not know anything about the Talmud beyond an erroneously translated snipet. What you're referring to is an obsure discussion on what makes a person a virgin for the purpose of a dowery payment, and it's a rationale for why someone raped as a child should still be considered a virgin. Actual discussion on the issue:

http://www.angelfire.com/mt/talmud/three.html

The Talmud strictly forbids all sex outside of marriage, which includes cases of child abuse.

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Old 02-05-2013, 10:32 AM   #1186
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I am against the idea of elected leaders being part of any secret societies. I know some facts about the Talmud. It seems to me the Talmud is pretty much the inverse of traditional christian morality, advocating such things as pedohpilia for example.
If that's an example of a "fact" you know about the Talmud, then I think you'd best seriously query your grasp of what "fact" means.

Why do I even bother? You clearly already have your mind made up, and worse, you think that *everybody else* are the close-minded ones, not you. The world is not run by secret societies. The rich and powerful don't NEED to work behind the scenes to control the world, because they are, by definition, those who already do.

This is the essential flaw of all "new world order" conspiracy theorists. The only reason to have a conspiracy is because you are trying to hide your activities from those who have the power to frustrate your aims. Who is this mythical enemy of whom Obama is afraid? HE'S ALREADY THE PRESIDENT OF THE MOST POWERFUL NATION IN HISTORY, HE DOESN'T NEED TO PLAY STUPID GAMES TO MESS WITH YOUR MIND.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:36 AM   #1187
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I am neutral about dogs, but I find some people can't ever go anywhere because of their dogs.
That's true...it is a consideration when planning to travel. However, the solution is to have a readily available dog sitter, or places in which you can take the dog.

We travel on the road with a lab, and most hotels now are set up to accommodate people travelling with dogs.

I saw on the Dragons the other night a couple setting up a luxury facility for travellers with dogs. The dogs were being pampered more than the average human. What is this world coming to... we're all going to the dogs.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:42 AM   #1188
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Oh I just thought of this.

Why is it so socially unacceptable to make fun of Fat people but completely okay to make fun of people for other things? I used to get called "too skinny" all the freaking time. Not just by people trying to be mean but like teachers, family friends etc... No one thought anything of telling me to eat more and what not. Can you imagine if a teacher said "eat less" to a fat kid??? The world would implode.

Hell even other things...

I've got a good receding hairline going and my friends will joke about it (luckily it's not a big deal to me because I buzz my hair anyways) but if you think about it, thats something that is absolutely out of my control in every way. There is nothing I could do to change that. Where as we have a few bigger friends but no one would dare make fun of them for that even though there is a lot they could do to try and change it. It's not an intimidation thing either. It's 100% based on hurting their feelings.

Seems weird to me.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:43 AM   #1189
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He's a terrible sales person.
Obviously not, he's made a small fortune on selling conspiracies to the gullible who take his word as gospel.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:48 AM   #1190
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Oh I just thought of this.

Why is it so socially unacceptable to make fun of Fat people but completely okay to make fun of people for other things? I used to get called "too skinny" all the freaking time. Not just by people trying to be mean but like teachers, family friends etc... No one thought anything of telling me to eat more and what not. Can you imagine if a teacher said "eat less" to a fat kid??? The world would implode.

Hell even other things...

I've got a good receding hairline going and my friends will joke about it (luckily it's not a big deal to me because I buzz my hair anyways) but if you think about it, thats something that is absolutely out of my control in every way. There is nothing I could do to change that. Where as we have a few bigger friends but no one would dare make fun of them for that even though there is a lot they could do to try and change it. It's not an intimidation thing either. It's 100% based on hurting their feelings.

Seems weird to me.
Because fat people are a majority now, and instead of admitting they have a problem and are eating themselves into an early grave, they bang the drum that allows them to appear victimized and not responsible for their affliction.
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Oh I just thought of this.

Why is it so socially unacceptable to make fun of Fat people but completely okay to make fun of people for other things? I used to get called "too skinny" all the freaking time. Not just by people trying to be mean but like teachers, family friends etc... No one thought anything of telling me to eat more and what not. Can you imagine if a teacher said "eat less" to a fat kid??? The world would implode.

Hell even other things...

I've got a good receding hairline going and my friends will joke about it (luckily it's not a big deal to me because I buzz my hair anyways) but if you think about it, thats something that is absolutely out of my control in every way. There is nothing I could do to change that. Where as we have a few bigger friends but no one would dare make fun of them for that even though there is a lot they could do to try and change it. It's not an intimidation thing either. It's 100% based on hurting their feelings.

Seems weird to me.
Whenever someone (other than my parents) has told me to eat more, I tell them to work harder.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:14 AM   #1192
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Oh I just thought of this.

Why is it so socially unacceptable to make fun of Fat people but completely okay to make fun of people for other things? I used to get called "too skinny" all the freaking time. Not just by people trying to be mean but like teachers, family friends etc... No one thought anything of telling me to eat more and what not. Can you imagine if a teacher said "eat less" to a fat kid??? The world would implode.

Hell even other things...

I've got a good receding hairline going and my friends will joke about it (luckily it's not a big deal to me because I buzz my hair anyways) but if you think about it, thats something that is absolutely out of my control in every way. There is nothing I could do to change that. Where as we have a few bigger friends but no one would dare make fun of them for that even though there is a lot they could do to try and change it. It's not an intimidation thing either. It's 100% based on hurting their feelings.

Seems weird to me.
Also, seems weird in the context of the anti-smoking debate. It's acceptable to belittle smokers and go on and on about the health care costs associated with smoking. Meanwhile, the health care costs of obesity far exceed those of smoking.
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Alex Jones is not a "prophet" for 9/11 truth. The guy has a massive ego and likes to claim he is the "spearhead" of 9/11 truth, but in reality he is not.

Architects&Engineers for 9-11 Truth are my primary source right now, and they do an excellent job at evaluating the evidence. Hey Crunch you should head over there and review their articles shredding Popular Mechanics "debunking" efforts.

Not one poster on CP, including the science wizz Proton has made any coherent argument that can validate the US government official version of 9/11.
Do you walk around all day with a tin foil hat on your head?
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:25 AM   #1194
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Also, seems weird in the context of the anti-smoking debate. It's acceptable to belittle smokers and go on and on about the health care costs associated with smoking. Meanwhile, the health care costs of obesity far exceed those of smoking.
Yeah I was going to mention this too.

Can we add "Do you have any intention of trying to not be a fat ****?" to insurance forms?
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:33 AM   #1195
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Alex Jones is not a "prophet" for 9/11 truth. The guy has a massive ego and likes to claim he is the "spearhead" of 9/11 truth, but in reality he is not.

Architects&Engineers for 9-11 Truth are my primary source right now, and they do an excellent job at evaluating the evidence. Hey Crunch you should head over there and review their articles shredding Popular Mechanics "debunking" efforts.

Not one poster on CP, including the science wizz Proton has made any coherent argument that can validate the US government official version of 9/11.
BS in the thread a couple of years ago that probably ran a few hundred pages you and the theories put forth were pretty effectively shredded to the point that you became a ghost in that thread and it died.

The architecs and engineers for 9/11 were pretty much made to look foolish on a national Geographic Special where they put those conspiracy theories based around building collapses and the use of thermite to the test and pretty much invalidated the work of the organization.

I posted a website that specifically went through all of the conspiracy theories and especially the engineering theories and used math, science, photo evidence and enactment to disprove the conspiracies put forth.

I don't think that there's any relevant reason to bring back 9/11 conspiracy debates since it would just be a repeat of the previous thread that I'm too lazy and don't care enough to find.

The Engineers and Architects are coming across as misguided and a bit crackpotish.

There's a reason why the 9/11 investigations haven't been re-opened and its not because of a government conspiracy to hide the truth x-files style. Its because there's no compelling reason to re-open it.

Go find the National Geographic special and watch it.

I would put out that this site has equal credibility to the engineeres and architechs.

http://www.debunking911.com/

There was no controlled demolition of the WTC buildings including building 7

Planes flew into the Pentagon

It wasn't the Jews

The term "pull it" refers to pulling out fire fighters from a dangerous non winnable situation

etc.

I've read all of the 9/11 conspiracy theories, they're infuriating because they're based on supposition, guesstimate sciences and a lot less physical evidence then the other side.

There's a reason why conspiracy theory fans are a fringe group.
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Yeah I was going to mention this too.

Can we add "Do you have any intention of trying to not be a fat ****?" to insurance forms?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...-than-smoking/

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How serious is the problem? Obesity has risen a full 34% since 1960 while morbid obesity is up sixfold.
Making the cost impact all the more troubling is the fact that, unlike smokers, obese people tend to live almost as long as those who keep their weight under control. ”Smokers die early enough that they save Social Security, private pensions, and Medicare” trillions of dollars”, said Duke’s Eric Finkelstein. “But mortality isn’t that much higher among the obese.”

So smokers fund their health care costs via taxes on cigarettes and then do us all the courtesy of dieing early. The obese tend to linger on with a plethora of health issues.
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Yeah I was going to mention this too.

Can we add "Do you have any intention of trying to not be a fat ****?" to insurance forms?
Oh believe me, we debate about stuff like that constantly in my public health practice and health policy classes, ways to make people more accountable for controllable lifestyle factors is a major debate point in public health.
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Oh believe me, we debate about stuff like that constantly in my public health practice and health policy classes, ways to make people more accountable for controllable lifestyle factors is a major debate point in public health.
I want to see a PSA commercial where an announcer belittles fat people.
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Yeah I was going to mention this too.

Can we add "Do you have any intention of trying to not be a fat ****?" to insurance forms?
As a fat guy, I can tell you that insurance is far more expensive for me than it would be for you.
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