Playoff Chances

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by zukes

I find it strange that every says you can be out of it sonner this year. I think you have a chance longer in a season like this. Every game is a conference opponent. Every game directly affects your point total and, right now, someone who you are chasing points total. Every game is a 4 point game.

...I don't see how you can see it one way or the other. Seeing as every game is a 4 point game, a loss buries you and a win vaults you.

However, Starting the season...say 0-4-1 would be awfully hard to bounce back because it's effectively starting a regular season with a record along the lines of 0-7-2

...Flames need to start winning friggin' hockey games or they'll bury themselves early.

[zukes]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

...I don't see how you can see it one way or the other. Seeing as every game is a 4 point game, a loss buries you and a win vaults you.

However, Starting the season...say 0-4-1 would be awfully hard to bounce back because it's effectively starting a regular season with a record along the lines of 0-7-2

...Flames need to start winning friggin' hockey games or they'll bury themselves early.

But would 0-4-1 bury them? Not really if they go 4-0-1 afterwards. They would then be 4-4-2, not quite good enough to be in the playoff picture, but they would be in spitting distance. Though at this juncture it's tough to see the Flames going 4-0-1 at any point, so yes, they need to start wining games.

[ricardodw]

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[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

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<P>The minute the Flames signed Bouwmeester they became a bubble team that would need other teams to failworse just to make the playoffs.</P>
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<P>It became worse when they decided Bouwmeester made Phanuef expendable and replace Phanuef with Stajan.</P>
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<P>The CHANGE now required is just so obvious....&nbsp; the Flames will not have a chance of improving,&nbsp;&nbsp; no matter the GM, coiaching or changing major or minor players until they get rid of Bouwmeester.</P>
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I agree that Bouwmeester is a big part of the problem, especially late in the season when things become more physical but the struggles down the stretch last year can also be blamed on Glencross, Jokinen, Tanguay, Iginla, etc who just stopped producing offensively in the final 10ish games.

[kermitology]

This team will go nowhere near the playoffs this year. Lower your expectations folks.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by fotze

That is the best case scenario, but we all know we will be kinda close to the playoffs to get some boob prospect.

I believe this could be the year the Flames finally nail that top 5 pick. There likely won't be much separation from 15th and 9th in the conference final standings and a few more losses to open the season and the Flames will have to go on a monumental run just to get back to their normal 10th spot finish. This season just has that feeling that it's going to hit rock bottom inducing a deadline fire sale including the captain finally accepting a trade.

I for one am a little excited actually about the prospects of a top 5 pick and the team having a fresh start with new leaders. I'm tired of the same old slow starts and choking down the stretch that have been the hallmark of Iginla's Flame teams of recent history. We have ample evidence now that the same old problems that have dogged this team didn't all stem from Keenan, Playfair, Sutter, or Hartley.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by fotze

That is the best case scenario, but we all know we will be kinda close to the playoffs to get some boob prospect.

Awesome! I love boobs!!

[keenan87]

One of three teams without a win:

Flames
Capitals
Kings

That is a very interesting list so far.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Flames are on pace to go 1-7-2 in their first 10 games. At this point 4-6 is a pipe dream and best case scenario. I know people like to be overly optimistic but look at the standings already. After playing only 3 games the Flames are already 7 points behind the conference leader. It takes weeks to move up in the standings and make ground as even if the Flames put together some wins the rest of the conference will be accumulating wins as well. There's simply not enough time in this shortended season to fall behind early.

It sounds crazy but Saturday's game is critical for this franchise. A loss to their provincial rivals would mean 1 out of a possible 8 points in their first 4 games. This team isn't good enough to make up that type of deficit and don't expect a 3rd line winger from Detroit or guy fresh off the boat from Europe to change the plight of this team.

A ricardodw-esque attempt at statistical analysis there

[dammage79]

Honestly wasn't expecting much out of the first five games this year. A couple of wins would be nice but I 'm not going to lose it yet. As long as the Flames can manage points out of the divisional games I think they can keep the boat afloat until things get really going.

That being said. I think it is safe to say if we don't start seeing some great results by game ten this year , then this team is in for some hurtin for the rest of the season.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Chances have improved to 37.7% (weighted) and 44.4% (50/50) with the win over the Oilers. Glad to get rid of that zero in the W column.

[FlamesAddiction]

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[OzSome]

Way too soon to tell. Maybe after the 20th or by half the season, we might be able to tell.

[ignite09]

Originally Posted by moon

The philosophy of win now hasn't changed. The organization still think it is better to finish 8th/9th then to build a team that can actually contend for the Cup.

And hiring a crap GM, using buzzwords and lies to describe the "new" philospohy and making crappy signings isn't necessarily the best way to go about "change."

What has Feaster done since he arrived here to deserve the "crap GM" shot? He isn't setting the NHL on fire by any means, but most of his moves(drafts/trades) have been solid.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by ignite09

What has Feaster done since he arrived here to deserve the "crap GM" shot? He isn't setting the NHL on fire by any means, but most of his moves(drafts/trades) have been solid.

Agreed. I'm not sure who he's talking about when it comes to crappy signings either...the only bad contract Feaster has handed out was to Babchuk, everything else is looking pretty nice.

Feaster has done a good, if not unspectacular, job so far.

If Ramo, Gaudreau, Jankowski, Granlund and Sieloff pay off - then he'll look like a genius. (Ramo has the potential to be Feaster's most significant acquisition)

[Bourque's Twin]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Agreed. I'm not sure who he's talking about when it comes to crappy signings either...the only bad contract Feaster has handed out was to Babchuk, everything else is looking pretty nice.

Feaster has done a good, if not unspectacular, job so far.

If Ramo, Gaudreau, Jankowski, Granlund and Sieloff pay off - then he'll look like a genius. (Ramo has the potential to be Feaster's most significant acquisition)

I agree with you. The Comeau signing appears to be bad as well but it's prett insignificant. Also, I think Regehr could've grabbed us more.

The fact he signed Hudler, Wideman, and Cervenka plus pulled off the Erixon deal is great. This franchise isn't the most attractive to UFA's. His drafting appears to be solid so far. Sven is already in the show. Those other prospects you listed are way more exciting than D. Sutter's.

I think Hartley may be Feaster's best acquisition.

[troutman]

Lost to Colorado 3-6, playoff odds down 14.6 to 26.4%

[Stay Golden]

Kipper will bounce back but in this short season the losses are leaving the Flames as rightful basement dwellers. The Flames with Iginla, Cammy and Kipper off to a poor start the damage is mounting and they are falling way behind quickly.
Hudler, Stempniak, Cervenka, Tanguay, Backlund can't carry this team's scoring without the 1st line doing their part every game.
Glencross should maybe switched with Cammy on the 1st line. Even though Cammy hasn't earned it.
Hudler has been far and away the best forward.
Playing Butler is giving the other team the chance of 2 goals a night spot. Not including what is becoming a habit of another 1 or 2 PP goals against per game.
Its not a good picture at all.

[Flash Walken]

I thought jackman had an excellent game last night, being first to the puck, tough to handle physically, great work around the net.

I still like jackman.

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[AR_Six]

It's amazing how the wins / losses drastically change the playoff odds. Someone's going to have to explain that to me. Don't actually though because I probably won't pay attention.