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Old 01-19-2013, 09:44 AM   #221
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How about both signature and avatar? From the end of the regular season to the first game of the next?
I just avatar bet stang. Sig is all I can bet.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:44 AM   #222
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You just emphasized the main issue with most hockey fans on Calgary Puck. We look at a team on paper and think it's a good team. So what's wrong with Calgary?

1. Our Coach Sucks, nobody outside Calgary would have hired him.
2. Our star players are only getting older.
3. We have some weak guy on D.
4. Good chance Hudler, Cervenka, Baerstchi, Wideman don't score 20 goals combined.
5. We've had less than a week to learn an entire new system.
6. Our core players and team in general get off to slow starts.

See where this list goes. A lot of negatives regarding the flames as well as other teams. The flames have a range that most people have put them in and it's 11th to 14th. There isn't any inaccurate about that.

You are literally talking about 4-6 points being the difference between 9th and 14th place so there is nothing wrong with 14th and if anything you should be hoping we finish in that spot as it's going to give us a shot at MaKinnon, Drouin and Jones.
I thought your PA rants were assinine, but this one takes the cake.

Those 4 will likely combine for 35 or more....and thats just using career averages and a couple conservative estimates.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:46 AM   #223
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I wouldn't be worried about what the TSN panel and even Sportsnet panel think of the Flames. Sure go ahead and pick them 14th or even in last place, who cares because I don't remember a team not making the playoff or in last place before the puck drop in the season anyways. A few days ago, i was watching Sportsnet and Craig Button, the same guy who traded Marc Savard for nobody and the same guy who drafted those bust 1st rounder, predicted the Oilers will make the playoff and Detroit Red Wings won't.

For me I think it is better that those so-called hockey expert pick the Flames to go lower and hopefully that motivates them in proving them wrong. We have some players who had a bad season JayBo, Stajan, Backlund, Comeau(not sure about this guy though) and even Iginla and Cammy had a bad season last year that might bounce back and have a good or even great season. Hey, nowhere but up, right? So, prove them wrong Flames!!!
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:47 AM   #224
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Great avatar.
Haha I've had it for almost 2 years straight (lost some avatar bets in that time)

Makes me laugh every time I think about where I got it...
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=84720
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:47 AM   #225
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dude you are #####ing hilarious!

so a fan always has to be myopic? they have to buy into the party line? I say one thing about why TSN thinks the Flames finish 14.

Obviously you, somehow believe every move Calgary has made is gold! And they'll finish what? 8th? 5th? So, you are smarter than guys that do this for a living and guys that actually played in the NHL.

I come here to amuse myself, watching people like you, get all in a twitter because the media calls it like they see it. Now THAT is gold.

It'll be even more fun if the Flames finish out of the playoffs - that'll probably be a NHL conspiracy because how much they "hate" us right!?

This ought to be fun!

Sure they do, and thats fine...they are no more than people with opinions like everyone else.

but if someone else calls it as they see it and it is much more friendly towards the Flames...they are myopic?

Double standard...no?
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:48 AM   #226
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The Red Wings sign Damien Brunner, a 26 year old, point a game player from the Swiss league and they're geniuses. The Flames sign Roman Cervenka, a 27 year old, point a game player from the KHL and they're wasting their time.

To be completely clear, I'm not saying that Brunner won't turn out to be a better player than Cervenka. That's entirely possible. I'm saying that some people will find a way to criticize the Flames regardless. Seriously, some of you just need to go to HF and pile it on there.
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I have a bet on a round of golf with the offending jersey, a dinner with the offending jersey and a day at work with the offending jersey all if the Oilers finish higher.

Do NOT let me down flames
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:54 AM   #228
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This is the first I have heard of it. Do you have a link to confirm any of this?
heard it while watching a detriot, however, there was a lot of smoke around the guy, before and after the season.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/785815-nhl-trade-rumors-2011-where-will-detroit-red-wings-jiri-hudler-end-up


BR so take it for what its worth.

http://hokej.idnes.cz/hudler-mozna-s...132514_nhl_cig

says that he would stay in Detroit for another 500K... something Detroit does not ofer for a guy that wanted to stay in Detroit, would take a hometown discount and who just had a his best season there...
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heard it while watching a detriot, however, there was a lot of smoke around the guy, before and after the season.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/785815-nhl-trade-rumors-2011-where-will-detroit-red-wings-jiri-hudler-end-up


BR so take it for what its worth.

http://hokej.idnes.cz/hudler-mozna-s...132514_nhl_cig

says that he would stay in Detroit for another 500K... something Detroit does not ofer for a guy that wanted to stay in Detroit, would take a hometown discount and who just had a his best season there...

So detroit DID want to re-sign him then.....just not at the rate he was offered in Calgary?
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Sure they do, and thats fine...they are no more than people with opinions like everyone else.

but if someone else calls it as they see it and it is much more friendly towards the Flames...they are myopic?

Double standard...no?
I have yet to find that from a legit source.

however, the point was to debunk the vast media conspiracy that some people always bring up. Like anyone in the media actually has a vendetta with respect to Calgary?!

the comment of myopia was used in reference to me not being a Flames fan because I don't see the moves as particularly positive, not in reference to the media btw.

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So detroit DID want to re-sign him then.....just not at the rate he was offered in Calgary?
Detroit did in so much as Calgary would have signed Olli if the numbers were right. Some players you open up the pocket book for, and some are a decided meh.

i suspect Jiri was to Detroit fans what Olli was to calgary fans.

do you miss Olli?
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Detroit did in so much as Calgary would have signed Olli if the numbers were right. Some players you open up the pocket book for, and some are a decided meh.

i suspect Jiri was to Detroit fans what Olli was to calgary fans.

do you miss Olli?
Not at 4.5 a year i dont.

Not sure what this has to do with Hudler at all though...detroit wanted him back, but clearly he was out of their price range.

Happens all the time to every team in a capped world.
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Not at 4.5 a year i dont.

Not sure what this has to do with Hudler at all though...detroit wanted him back, but clearly he was out of their price range.

Happens all the time to every team in a capped world.
it has to do with Hudler because this is the same situation as Olli.

Either player would have signed for less to stay with their respective teams, both were good players.

even after having a career year in Detroit, they let him walk for a difference of 500K maybe?

It happens all the time in the capped world to players not considered to be part of the core moving forward.

If Detroit saw him as a valuable member of the core moving forward, Holland would have signed him. Breaking for the paltry difference of 500K? Especially considering the salary space Detroit opened up?

Hence the Olli analogy. Good player, got a lot of points, a lot of fans liked him, but he wasn't considered to be invaluable moving forward. That Hudler in a nutshell
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This is a bloody stupid argument.
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I have yet to find that from a legit source.

however, the point was to debunk the vast media conspiracy that some people always bring up. Like anyone in the media actually has a vendetta with respect to Calgary?!

the comment of myopia was used in reference to me not being a Flames fan because I don't see the moves as particularly positive, not in reference to the media btw.
I don't think there is a conspiracy or vendetta or whatever - I think the vast majority of the media are too stupid, cowardly, and/or lazy to actually put any thought into the process. They go with what is readily available and follow the party line.
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This is a bloody stupid argument.
Not too mention a intellectually lazy retort.

Stupid is as stupid does.

want to make an actual counter point? I am all ears? Want to throw around insults instead? I can do that to.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:27 AM   #237
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In my opinion

Jokinen > Cammalleri (slightly)
Bourque = Hudler
Moss = Comeau
Hannan << Wideman
Kostopolous = Jones
Hagman < Cervenka (without even seeing him play)
or...

Bourque < Cammalleri
Hagman < Hudler
Hannan < Wideman
Jokinen > Backlund/Cervenka/Jones
Kostopoulos = Comeau
Moss =< Bärtschi
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Not too mention a intellectually lazy retort.

Stupid is as stupid does.

want to make an actual counter point? I am all ears? Want to throw around insults instead? I can do that to.
What is your problem? Calling people stupid?

You act like you're throwing around good facts and sources?
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it has to do with Hudler because this is the same situation as Olli.

Either player would have signed for less to stay with their respective teams, both were good players.

even after having a career year in Detroit, they let him walk for a difference of 500K maybe?

It happens all the time in the capped world to players not considered to be part of the core moving forward.

If Detroit saw him as a valuable member of the core moving forward, Holland would have signed him. Breaking for the paltry difference of 500K? Especially considering the salary space Detroit opened up?

Hence the Olli analogy. Good player, got a lot of points, a lot of fans liked him, but he wasn't considered to be invaluable moving forward. That Hudler in a nutshell

Thats all fine and dandy, but i would suggest that the Flames were never serious about bringing oj back, but Hudler was indeed someone holland wanted, but only at a rate he was willing to pay.

Both guys likely fill needs for their respective teams now however and that skews any $$ amounts either received from their respective clubs.

All this though is moot as to the original point you were attempting to make...that being that detroit did try and re-sign Hudler which was opposite of what you claimed and what Text was asking about.
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What is your problem? Calling people stupid?

You act like you're throwing around good facts and sources?
my problem? you are the one calling posts "bloody stupid" not me.

I am putting forward an opinion, no different than anyone putting up an opinion. Transplant and I clearly have a difference of opinion, however, I respect and can respond to his points, and him to mine without getting into personal attacks.
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