First nations will blockade roads as part of 'Idle No More' protest

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Its almost a shame that that kid turned out to be a fairly poor soldier, I wouldn't have had the control for that staredown, I probably would have given that Mohawk what he so richly deserved which was a backhand to pluto.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Minnie

But is it really ancestral land? It's just that it would seem that most reserve land is not what would be claimed as ancestral lands, just what the government handed to them all those years ago.

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That is true for some. It didn't happen as much in Canada as it did it the U.S. where whole nations were moved 100s of miles from where they lived and put onto mega-reserves, but it did happen to some on a smaller scale. There is also the fact that many native tribes were nomadic and didn't have specific land to call home; hence why the concept of land ownership was not fully understood.

There are even some First Nations people in Southern Ontario that were refugees from the States during the 1700s and early 1800s including Canadian/First Nations War of 1812 hero Tecumseh.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

That is true for some. It didn't happen as much in Canada as it did it the U.S. where whole nations were moved 100s of miles from where they lived and put onto mega-reserves, but it did happen to some on a smaller scale. There is also the fact that many native tribes were nomadic and didn't have specific land to call home; hence why the concept of land ownership was not fully understood.

There are even some First Nations people in Southern Ontario that were refugees from the States during the 1700s and early 1800s including Canadian/First Nations War of 1812 hero Tecumseh.

It might also be true that a large number of these tribes acquired their land from other tribes through conquest themselves, or lost land similarly.

The white guys just happened to be the last tribe to do the conquesting.

Cowperson

[HHW]

Originally Posted by polak

I like how a post about someone going to work to provide for their family gets numerous "thanks" like it's some sort of big deal.

You know a demographic is seriously messed up when...

I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that most fully realize the sarcasm in that post

[CaptainCrunch]

Atleo throws in the towel "Temporarily" due to doctors orders.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/shawn-a...hief-1.1113096

I believe this will become permanent.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its almost a shame that that kid turned out to be a fairly poor soldier, I wouldn't have had the control for that staredown, I probably would have given that Mohawk what he so richly deserved which was a backhand to pluto.

What ever happened to the kid? Was he in a scandal or something?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Sliver

What ever happened to the kid? Was he in a scandal or something?

Booze, drugs and porn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Cloutier

[northcrunk]

The FN are claiming rascism, personally I am sick of all the racism we are recieving at the hands of FN. I don't know how many times I've been called whitey and told how I'm the reason they don't have this and that. Bull****. I see more rascism coming from FN than I do from any other Canadian cultural group.

[CaptainCrunch]

Shadup honky

[AR_Six]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

The FN are claiming rascism, personally I am sick of all the racism we are recieving at the hands of FN. I don't know how many times I've been called whitey and told how I'm the reason they don't have this and that. Bull****. I see more rascism coming from FN than I do from any other Canadian cultural group.

Any specifics as to the racism claims? All I've seen is claims that a large portion of the people responding to this Idle No More stuff have been making racist statements (i.e. in the CBC comments section) which is both obviously true and totally expected. It's a comments section, there is no greater source of human idiocy. People often display an astounding level of ignorance towards First Nations which is shameful but again, par for the course.

If they're claiming racism on the basis that charges are being contemplated for blockading a public roadway, that's another issue (and really really stupid) but I haven't seen anything of the sort.

[northcrunk]

Here's one against the sun:

http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/01/13...y-sun-building

Personally I don't have a link online to my personal experiences. The comments sections rediculous to begin with, there's a ton of it on twitter though.

[undercoverbrother]

It's been posted already in this thread. This type of picture does no good or justice to the issues. If I held up a sign that said "1534, hadn't invented the wheel" people would flip.

[schteve_d]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

One of my friends who is native put this on his facebook wall today:

"Tomorrow I am joining the "idle no more" movement. At 4am my alarm clock will ring and I will be idle no more. I will go to work to support my family and maybe expand my business, instead of demanding things given to me. What a weird concept..."

I had to laugh at this because the very first time I heard the Idle No More tag I actually thought it was about Natives and gaining employment.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

It's been posted already in this thread. This type of picture does no good or justice to the issues. If I held up a sign that said "1534, hadn't invented the wheel" people would flip.

Haha so true!

[evman150]

They are doing a great awareness campaign - now millions more Canadians are aware how corrupt they are.

Has the chief lost any weight yet? No? Big shocker. Her gut is stuffed full of hundred dollar bills.

[polak]

Someone should make a sign that reads

"Negotiations, Not Corrupt First Nations"

[Azure]

I think when evman agrees that most of the chiefs are corrupt, they really are corrupt.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

Here's one against the sun:

http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/01/13...y-sun-building

Personally I don't have a link online to my personal experiences. The comments sections rediculous to begin with, there's a ton of it on twitter though.

There are lots of problems with the Sun and its sensationalism. However the fact that the Natives have thrown out the whole racism card to deflect criticism of Chief Spence is kind of disgusting.

The Sun's editorial response today was as far as it gets and they've plainly stated that they don't moderate the comments section, they'll remove comments that are reported but they feel that moderating discussion goes against the concept of free speech.

The Natives and Idle No More are really off the page on throwing around accusations of racism, and accusing the Sun of slanted reporting when the facts are out there due to the audit.

The reason why groups like Idle No More and Occupy fail is because they debate at the lowest common level, if you're not with us your a horrible racist or red neck or fascist capitalist.

Idle No More is going very much from a legitimate protest group to as Stalin put it a group of useful idiots that are being used by the powerful.

[ripTDR]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its almost a shame that that kid turned out to be a fairly poor soldier, I wouldn't have had the control for that staredown, I probably would have given that Mohawk what he so richly deserved which was a backhand to pluto.

the oka crisis(if thats where the photo was taken...and im guessing it was) was FAR different than whats going on now. Ive only read up on what Will Ferguson wrote about it in "#######s and Boneheads" but they got the shaft on that one.

[RubberDuck]

http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/01/14...mental-attacks

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