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		|  01-09-2013, 04:46 PM | #81 |  
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					Originally Posted by peter12  I went from around 235lbs to 175. So I had to sell most of my clothes, and start over. |  
Ah, went through a pretty similar situation. The whole clothes not fitting part is definitely the only real downside I've found. Nothing worse than an ill fitting suit.
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		|  01-09-2013, 09:21 PM | #82 |  
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					Originally Posted by peter12  Also, Beckham would have looked better with a tie. No question. Also, no skinny ties, guys. |  
What do you define as 'skinny'? I could see a 2 inch width or anything less as being way too 'skinny'. But if you look at something that has a width of 2 and 3/4 inch I'd say that's about spot on. I've seen wider ties closer to north of 3 inches and they're disgusting. 
 
As for the OP, as mentioned that isn't a dress shirt. Wear that out and everyone will assume you wear Ed Hardy or Affliction Tees when you're not 'dressed up'. As for Robert Graham. It's disgusting. If you're looking for an alternative to a Robert Graham shirt that is slightly less obnoxious try 7 Downie St |  
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		|  01-09-2013, 09:47 PM | #83 |  
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					Originally Posted by peter12  Was it a pin-striped jacket, and did you wear it with jeans, and black duck-toed shoes? |  
I don't even think I own a pin-striped jacket or duck-toed shoes. And no to the jeans.
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		|  01-09-2013, 10:10 PM | #84 |  
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					Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby  What do you define as 'skinny'? I could see a 2 inch width or anything less as being way too 'skinny'. But if you look at something that has a width of 2 and 3/4 inch I'd say that's about spot on. I've seen wider ties closer to north of 3 inches and they're disgusting.  
As for the OP, as mentioned that isn't a dress shirt. Wear that out and everyone will assume you wear Ed Hardy or Affliction Tees when you're not 'dressed up'. As for Robert Graham. It's disgusting. If you're looking for an alternative to a Robert Graham shirt that is slightly less obnoxious try 7 Downie St |  
3" is the sweet spot in my opinion. +/- a quarter inch. Depends on the wearer and the jacket. I wish I had more opportunity to wear ties. I only own five - four navy-based and one burgundy.
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		|  01-09-2013, 10:23 PM | #85 |  
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					Originally Posted by valo403  Ah, went through a pretty similar situation. The whole clothes not fitting part is definitely the only real downside I've found. Nothing worse than an ill fitting suit. |  
Me three, 209 lbs to 178 lbs.
		 
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		|  01-09-2013, 10:37 PM | #86 |  
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					Originally Posted by TorqueDog  Me three, 209 lbs to 178 lbs. |  
+3!
 
Probably about 200ish (almost a 44) to 173.
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		|  01-09-2013, 10:42 PM | #87 |  
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			That's not the most manly shirt.  Perhaps if you were in your young man in your early 20's that may look ok, but I certainly don't like the style.
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		|  01-09-2013, 11:21 PM | #88 |  
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					Originally Posted by rubecube  I don't even think I own a pin-striped jacket or duck-toed shoes. And no to the jeans. |  
Then my attempt to pigeon-hole you has failed. Good day to you, sir!
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		|  01-10-2013, 06:34 AM | #89 |  
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			I've always said long sleeved button down shirt not button up shirt. Can it be either one or did I make up my own thing?
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		|  01-10-2013, 08:07 AM | #90 |  
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			Shirts are button ups. Button downs are a type of collar.
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		|  01-10-2013, 08:09 AM | #91 |  
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			Personally, I believe you can be fashionable without resorting to high-end quality to dressing strictly to a regime of tweed and cashmere. That will enable you to develop some variety as well in your wardrobe. Let's face it, our daily office lives are pretty mundane and you aren't going to be doing any serious activities that are going to damage the clothes you wear, even if they are not made of the best materials. You can also shop smart (Winners, etc.) and get good brands and quality on a budget. If you really need tailor made men's clothing, the asian tailors (of which there are hundreds) are a great resource.
 That said there is a certain faux pas in today's business casual culture to dressing up. The only person in my 1000 employee O&G company that wears a tie is our legal counsel. I wore a tie to work once and the entire day, people were giving me strange looks and asking me why I was wearing a tie.
 
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		|  01-10-2013, 09:23 AM | #92 |  
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			A tie just polishes off the look with a suit.
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		|  01-10-2013, 10:15 AM | #94 |  
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			Just no to the short sleeves on dress shirt. 
Having said that, unless in a suit, I roll up the sleeves on my shirts every day - either dressy or casual. You can't roll them up perfectly, or else they look weird, so I just give them the "zhuz"    The sound I make to describe rolling them up in kind of a rugged way.
 
Dress shirt with rolled up sleeves, no tie, and nice pants is my idea of perfect-looking business casual.
		
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		|  01-10-2013, 11:02 AM | #95 |  
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					Originally Posted by peter12  Was it a pin-striped jacket, and did you wear it with jeans, and black duck-toed shoes? |  
Is peter short for pretentious?
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		|  01-10-2013, 12:59 PM | #96 |  
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			just to close the loop on all this, i went to winners today and picked up a couple of shirts that will do (although imho none of them are as nice as the shirt i originally wanted).  
 now, i just need to find something undestated from ed hardy and then attach the testes to my awd suv.......
 
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		|  01-10-2013, 04:35 PM | #97 |  
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					Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby  A tie just polishes off the look with a suit. |  
Agreed, but it if you're just going blazer and dress pants (for instance matching shades instead of exact colour matches), I think a tie can make it look off.
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		|  01-10-2013, 06:36 PM | #98 |  
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			Short sleeve dress shirts are reserved for those in the Caribbean and/or IT department. 
 And don't get me started about the guy at one of my client's who wears jeans, blazer and a white runners EVERY DAY. It bottles my mind
 
 
 
 
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		|  01-10-2013, 06:42 PM | #99 |  
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					Originally Posted by MRCboicgy  Just no to the short sleeves on dress shirt. 
Having said that, unless in a suit, I roll up the sleeves on my shirts every day - either dressy or casual. You can't roll them up perfectly, or else they look weird, so I just give them the "zhuz"    The sound I make to describe rolling them up in kind of a rugged way.
 
Dress shirt with rolled up sleeves, no tie, and nice pants is my idea of perfect-looking business casual. |  
I wish I could pull that off.
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		|  01-10-2013, 07:11 PM | #100 |  
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					Originally Posted by Ducay  Short sleeve dress shirts are reserved for those in the Caribbean and/or IT department. 
 And don't get me started about the guy at one of my client's who wears jeans, blazer and a white runners EVERY DAY. It bottles my mind
 
 
 
 
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Is he over 40 years of age?  That look was all the rage in the 80s.  Unlike short sleeve dress shirts, not so timeless though.
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