Long Sleeve Button Up Shirt

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by First Lady

So a shirt from Wal-mart then.

Those are the two options, shirt made to look gaudy or Wal-Mart?

My only suggestion is Ed Williams Mens Wear in Crowfoot - I find the staff there to be very knowledgeable, the prices aren't completely outrageous, and the quality is very high.

If you are looking for more flair, I really like the look of the French Cuff relative to the Barrel Cuff, although then you should wear your shirt with a jacket if you decide to go that route. That being said spend the extra money on getting something that fits you right and get it tailored to actually look nice, I often have seen people wearing very very nice shirts, that just don't fit right and can accentuate the gut as a result.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by firebug

Disagree. Exposed dress shirt buttons are very tacky.

If you are in a dress shirt, you need a tie on (sweaters or vests can work as well).

The place i am at now is 'business casual' and nearly everyone is in a dress shirt with no tie. Looks horrid in my view.

That's nonsense. You've basically said that there is no middle ground, it's either suit/sport coat and tie or t-shirt. That's ridiculous.

[firebug]

Originally Posted by valo403

That's nonsense. You've basically said that there is no middle ground, it's either suit/sport coat and tie or t-shirt. That's ridiculous.

It might be if one neglected to own any sport shirts.

Suit + dress shirt + tie = Good

Suit + dress shirt - tie = no good

Sport Coat + Dress shirt + tie = good

Sport coat + dress shirt - tie = no good

Sport coat + dress shirt - tie + sweater (or vest) = good

Sport coat + sport shirt - tie = good

Dress shirt + tie = passable in some circumstances

Dress shirt - tie = no good

Sport shirt - tie = fine

As per the original shirt in question, I would not regard it as a dress shirt.

[polak]

Sport shirt as in golf shirts and the like?

http://www.google.ca/search?q=sport+...i0DIPRqAGUrIBo


I would not wear 90% those any where outside of work and golf course...

Wait do you wear you sport shirts tucked into jeans?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by firebug

It might be if one neglected to own any sport shirts.

Suit + dress shirt + tie = Good

Suit + dress shirt - tie = no good

Sport Coat + Dress shirt + tie = good

Sport coat + dress shirt - tie = no good

Sport coat + dress shirt - tie + sweater (or vest) = good

Sport coat + sport shirt - tie = good

Dress shirt + tie = passable in some circumstances

Dress shirt - tie = no good

Sport shirt - tie = fine

As per the original shirt in question, I would not regard it as a dress shirt.

The line between "dress shirt" and "sport shirt", by which I assume you mean a more casual long sleeved button up shirt, has been getting blurrier every year.

[jammies]

Why are they called "sports jackets" anyway? Do you ever see somebody in a pickup basketball game with one on, and the other guys are saying, "Man if I only had equipment like that sweet jacket I'd have hit that three-pointer too."

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by jammies

Why are they called "sports jackets" anyway? Do you ever see somebody in a pickup basketball game with one on, and the other guys are saying, "Man if I only had equipment like that sweet jacket I'd have hit that three-pointer too."

Because back in the olden days, you would actually wear these while playing outdoor sports, hiking, riding, doing hunting and other activities.

[spetch]

Originally Posted by valo403

The line between "dress shirt" and "sport shirt", by which I assume you mean a more casual long sleeved button up shirt, has been getting blurrier every year.

I would disagree with that comment, imo it's quite the opposite. As I do the buying for my shop, I see less and less patterns/stripes/checks/etc in dress shirt fittings then I used to see 2-3 years ago. They will never go away but I definitely don't see the manufacturers come out with as many as previous years.

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by firebug

It might be if one neglected to own any sport shirts.

Suit + dress shirt + tie = Good

Suit + dress shirt - tie = no good

Sport Coat + Dress shirt + tie = good

Sport coat + dress shirt - tie = no good

Sport coat + dress shirt - tie + sweater (or vest) = good

Sport coat + sport shirt - tie = good

Dress shirt + tie = passable in some circumstances

Dress shirt - tie = no good

Sport shirt - tie = fine

As per the original shirt in question, I would not regard it as a dress shirt.

I disagree with the above blanket statements.

You can make almost (almost!) any of those combinations work with the proper style shirt, tie, coat and pants.

Personally a tie with a button-down collar is a no-no. Some guys can do it, but I'd rather be run over by Tim Gunn's limo than do that.

Edit: and to the OP - that shirt is just no.

[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by firebug

Suit + dress shirt - tie = no good

Settle down there Tim Gunn, David Beckham disagrees...



No homo, but wow, that's class.

[polak]

Dude, Beckham could wear an Ugg boot as a hat and pull it off.

[peter12]

Also, Beckham would have looked better with a tie. No question. Also, no skinny ties, guys.

[peter12]

The easiest way for a guy to get dressed with a limited budget is to adopt a personal uniform. Get a few pieces of the best quality you can afford, and just wear those. Yes, this means no silly shirts, or flashy jeans, but it does mean you will look good basically all of the time.

I am a grad student, and a consultant. With student loan payments, I don't pull in a lot of cash. My uniform consists of 5 pairs of chinos - either grey or khaki, 6 blue oxford cloth button down shirts, a rotation of 3 navy blazers depending on the season, and 3 pairs of wool pants - all in charcoal or grey. With this, I wear either brown loafers, black balmoral shoes, or dress boots. I wear only striped repp ties, or knit ties.

I have a few more casual shirts, sweaters, and a pair of raw denim jeans for weekends.

The limited options I have presented myself with mean that I can wait for sales, snipe items on ebay or even thrift. All told, my entire wardrobe probably cost me around $2500, and that is over about 2 years of purchasing. Almost any guy, who works in a professional or business setting can afford this type of set-up, and will guaranteed look better than 99% of the other men.

You set a tone by the way you dress. I would like to come off as professional, and competitive. I also care about the way I look. I would rather be a bit more dull or simple in appearance, than have a client, a student, or a professor stare at my cheap, and gaudy shirt sleeve.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by spetch

I would disagree with that comment, imo it's quite the opposite. As I do the buying for my shop, I see less and less patterns/stripes/checks/etc in dress shirt fittings then I used to see 2-3 years ago. They will never go away but I definitely don't see the manufacturers come out with as many as previous years.

I don't know about what manufacturers come out with, that wasn't really my point. My point is that 'sport shirts' are becoming more and more acceptable as dress shirts, at least in the business casual context.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by peter12

Also, Beckham would have looked better with a tie. No question. Also, no skinny ties, guys.

That outfit with a tie is far too formal for the setting, especially if it was anything more than slightly wider than a skinny tie.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by peter12

The easiest way for a guy to get dressed with a limited budget is to adopt a personal uniform. Get a few pieces of the best quality you can afford, and just wear those. Yes, this means no silly shirts, or flashy jeans, but it does mean you will look good basically all of the time.

I am a grad student, and a consultant. With student loan payments, I don't pull in a lot of cash. My uniform consists of 5 pairs of chinos - either grey or khaki, 6 blue oxford cloth button down shirts, a rotation of 3 navy blazers depending on the season, and 3 pairs of wool pants - all in charcoal or grey. With this, I wear either brown loafers, black balmoral shoes, or dress boots. I wear only striped repp ties, or knit ties.

I have a few more casual shirts, sweaters, and a pair of raw denim jeans for weekends.

The limited options I have presented myself with mean that I can wait for sales, snipe items on ebay or even thrift. All told, my entire wardrobe probably cost me around $2500, and that is over about 2 years of purchasing. Almost any guy, who works in a professional or business setting can afford this type of set-up, and will guaranteed look better than 99% of the other men.

You set a tone by the way you dress. I would like to come off as professional, and competitive. I also care about the way I look. I would rather be a bit more dull or simple in appearance, than have a client, a student, or a professor stare at my cheap, and gaudy shirt sleeve.

No suits?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by valo403

No suits?

I went from around 235lbs to 175. So I had to sell most of my clothes, and start over.

[TorqueDog]

Get a good tailor. An off the rack shirt is still going to need tailoring to truly 'fit' you well.

Example, I have wide shoulders and a narrow waist, so I swim in shirts that fit my shoulders properly. A couple well-placed darts by the tailor and it looks like it was cut to fit me personally.

I get my stuff from Robert at the TD Square/CORE Brooks Brothers, right beside Holt Renfrew.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by firebug

It might be if one neglected to own any sport shirts.

Suit + dress shirt + tie = Good

Suit + dress shirt - tie = no good

Sport Coat + Dress shirt + tie = good

Sport coat + dress shirt - tie = no good

Sport coat + dress shirt - tie + sweater (or vest) = good

Sport coat + sport shirt - tie = good

Dress shirt + tie = passable in some circumstances

Dress shirt - tie = no good

Sport shirt - tie = fine

As per the original shirt in question, I would not regard it as a dress shirt.

F that. I wear dress shirts to work, and I'm not going opt for a tie, or a jacket that's just going to wrinkle while I sit at my desk. I also went out on New Year's with a dress shirt, jacket, sans tie because I would've looked like a putz at the place I went to had I worn a tie.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by rubecube

F that. I wear dress shirts to work, and I'm not going opt for a tie, or a jacket that's just going to wrinkle while I sit at my desk. I also went out on New Year's with a dress shirt, jacket, sans tie because I would've looked like a putz at the place I went to had I worn a tie.

Was it a pin-striped jacket, and did you wear it with jeans, and black duck-toed shoes?