Connecticut School Shooting

[Plett25]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Mikey's common sense solutions:

-temporarily suspend gun ownership when mental illness is detected and when a person has a prescription psychotropic.

What do you call the belief that an AR-15 is protection against a tyrannical government armed with nuclear weapons, stealth bombers, armed drones, satellite reconnaissance and soldiers with kevlar body armour riding around in tanks?

I think that is such a delusional belief that it borders on mental illness.

So, shouldn't the belief that an AR-15 affords protection from tyrannical governments be grounds to suspend gun ownership?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

It's not really numbers that matter so much in a democratic system like the States. Wealth, profession, network, etc., all do a good job of being a force multiplier.

Your post, while I don't disagree, is pretty sad comment on a nation that prides its self on being a model of democracy.....

[pepper24]

The NRA are enablers of mass murder.

[HPLovecraft]

Here's an article from Slate about the power of the NRA:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...emocrats_.html

NRA members are as single-minded as the organization itself. Polls often show that more Americans favor tightening gun control laws than relaxing them, but gun rights advocates are much more likely to be single-issue voters than those on the other side of the question. As a result, the NRA can reliably deliver votes.

Could explain some of it, but it is still a little strange, it's true. Of course, maybe politicians are just scared of being shot by them.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Hi This is my last response to Mikey's posts ever. Ridiculous

Best part of this post.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I said this earlier, but the NRA membership, is about 1% of the US populace. How the hell did it become so powerful?

Same reason lots of other lobbyists groups become so powerful.

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

NRA's big plan? Put armed cops in schools:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...n-control.html

Let the arm's race continue!

Aren't there armed police officers in many Calgary high schools already....?

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I said this earlier, but the NRA membership, is about 1% of the US populace. How the hell did it become so powerful?

?? how about...

Bang bang bang bang kapow boom bang bang bang

[Calgaryflamesgirl34]

Another guy has killed 3 in Pennsylvania according to CBS and CNN.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/...ty-shooting-2/

[Wormius]

nm

[Rudee]

Originally Posted by Calgaryflamesgirl34

Another guy has killed 3 in Pennsylvania according to CBS and CNN.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/...ty-shooting-2/

Pffft. A mere 3 people dead is not news worthy anymore.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Azure

Same reason lots of other lobbyists groups become so powerful.

Yep, money, the NRA is bankrolled by the gun manufacturers, in a country where there are 300 million guns, all of which started off costing $200 or more that is a huge industry, they also represent a very ardent single issue voting group, so that 1% can be turned out very effectively in the state primaries and will pick candidates solely on their gun record, unlike any other group, even abortion.

[Itse]

Not sure if posted, but this is interesting.

A comparison study by the Harvard Injury Control Research Centre at the Harvard School of Public Health showed that among 26 developed nations, including Canada, where guns were more available, there were more homicides. The U.S. had the highest rate of civilian gun ownership and the highest homicide rate, by a wide margin.

Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...#ixzz2FoFX5zRc

Australia provides an example of a country that clamped down on gun ownership, prompted by a 1996 mass killing in which a man killed 20 people within 90 seconds of opening fire with an assault weapon. In all, 35 people died and another 18 were wounded.
Then-Prime Minister John Howard introduced nationwide gun law reforms within 12 days of the killings. As the Age newspaper reported, in a government firearms buyback initiative, more than 700,000 guns were removed from the general public and destroyed. Ten years later, in 2006, Australians pronounced the reforms a success, saying there had not been a single mass shooting in that time. Gun-related homicides, suicides and accidents were halved.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Itse

Not sure if posted, but this is interesting.

facts have never mattered when it comes to the gun debate in the US (or any debate involving right wing Republicans it seems)

[Caged Great]

It's another area where the republicans are being confronted with that whole "facts" thing that seems to get in their way so much.

The republican brand is getting thrown off the cliff by their lack of backbone when dealing with the crazies in their party. There was a poll by CNN that showed that 53% of the population thinks they're too extreme. That basically means no major election wins here on out, and that's how it should be.

There was a guy on Morning Joe's show on Friday, a republican congressman from Kansas, I think it was John Hulescamp or something like that, and from seeing what he was saying (No tax increases + No restrictions on guns period), I feel sorry for John Boehner for having to deal with these guys. I'm sure he can see that his party is becoming irrelevant and completely out of step with the vast majority of America, and cannot convince them to do anything.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Itse

Not sure if posted, but this is interesting.

Buy back programs are extremely effective, especially on a local level, and ESPECIALLY with at risk 'people'...such as gang members, or criminals. I know the guy that handles the guns for the police in Pincher Creek, and he was in charge of destroying the firearms obtained through a local buy-back program, and he remarked to me a couple times how effective it was.

Sadly, he also had to destroy many antique weapons that the owners found to need of. Had to get a judicial approval to retain a few, and donate to a collector. Firing pin removed of course.

[T@T]

A first for me personally, I actually shed a tear for people I didn't know when I looked at the pictures of those little innocent victims from Newtown.

One can only hope there deaths will bring change and hope someday in the future.

[Street Pharmacist]

Just recieved this. Faith in humanity restored

[HPLovecraft]

Call me bitter, but some free timbits ain't restorng my faith in anythin'.

[SeeBass]

not exactly a "random act of kindness" when its suggested