Connecticut School Shooting

[Senator Clay Davis]

I agree. Guns in bars, schools, churches, airplanes, sporting events...just everywhere. Also vests for all citizens. And access to nuclear weapons too, cause I mean if I gotta keep the tyranical government in check, I gotta have the same weapons they do.

[Tinordi]

I love Mickey's dispatches from the bomb shelter.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I love Mickey's dispatches from the bomb shelter.

is that bomb shelter/mums basement?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Chicago is the most dangerous city in the world right now.

In addition to this, you have this massive police state looming over America. The Dept. of Homeland Security has purchased 1.6 billion rounds of ammo in the last year for themselves and other government agencies, mostly hollow points too. Remember, DHS is a domestic agency. Americans are being spied on, there are empty prison camps, COG plans, Patriot Act, NDAA, domestic drones etc.

Americans are starting to realize this. They have been buying guns at a staggering pace since Obama came in.

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sorry I was no gonna respond, but damn it.....

Do you really truely believe that Chicago is the most dangerous city in the world?


Can you please let me know more about the empty prison camps?

[Ozy_Flame]

Mikey, why then does America have to be so engrained in their gun culture and arm themselves to the teeth, when everyone else does exactly the opposite and doesn't have near as many gun deaths (per person)?

Does the same tactic work in Canada as well? I sincerely doubt it, which shows me that not only is America still a dangerous place comparatively speaking to other first world countries, but also their gun culture / second amendment rights is easy justification for those who think they're necessary for personal safety.

To me, everyone pointing their guns at each other in a saloon is not nearly as safe as everyone in the saloon not having any guns at all.

To use a Cold War analogy, whereas the rest of the world deals with gun violence through Detente, the US seems to prefer brinksmanship. Never understood why.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

A state monopoly on force is never a good idea. It may not happen in your lifetime, but corruption and totalitarianism can rear its ugly head at any time.

Nobody has killed more people than corrupt, tyrannical governments. We're talking in the hundreds of millions here and this does not include militray conflict. The 20th century is riddled with examples of this.

Alot of gun grabbers say that citizens could never take on the military might of the United States if it goes rogue. America as a nation was born this way. A bunch of rednecks took on the British Imperial army and sent them packing. Guerrilla warfare is tough to defeat. The U.S. can't even beat a 3rd world nation like Afghanistan.

Just a few weeks ago, a mall shooter in Oregon was confronted by an armed citizen, the next bullet fired was the shooter ending his own life. There are numerous examples of citizens stopping shootings. Mass shootings ...almost without exception are carried out in gun-free zones like malls, schools, theaters etc.

Why don't they just hang up an "easy pickings" sign?

Now would be the worst time for Americans to hand in their guns. Mass shootings aside, crime rates have been plummeting due to the gun culture, except in places like Chicago where there are strict handgun laws. Chicago is the most dangerous city in the world right now.

In addition to this, you have this massive police state looming over America. The Dept. of Homeland Security has purchased 1.6 billion rounds of ammo in the last year for themselves and other government agencies, mostly hollow points too. Remember, DHS is a domestic agency. Americans are being spied on, there are empty prison camps, COG plans, Patriot Act, NDAA, domestic drones etc.

Americans are starting to realize this. They have been buying guns at a staggering pace since Obama came in.

Citizens cannot own guns in Mexico. Isn't that going well? The people there are at the mercy of gangs and drug cartels, and government corruption is rampant. If you want to feel safe, just admit yourself to prison.

Chicago is the most dangerous city in the world? With ridiculous statements like that you totally discredit yourself. As soon as the previous poster says soon thing sensible like only the police and military should be armed your pendulum swings to the extreme and you start talking about rogue governments and the American revolution. News flash, that would simply not happen, ever in Canada. Full stop. Personally I think the only people other than police and military who need guns are certain occupations like placer miners and helicopter/airplane pilots who work in the bush or far north and need protection from animals, commercial airline pilots to respond to hijackers, armoured guards carrying money, private contractors protecting nuclear plants or other critical infrastructure and hunters. All of the aforementioned are professionals with backgrounds that have been checked except hunters. The risk of gun crime would be very low.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Chicago isn't even the most dangerous city in America! (Hello Detroit, St. Louis and Baltimore)

[Street Pharmacist]

Hi This is my last response to Mikey's posts ever. Ridiculous

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

A state monopoly on force is never a good idea. It may not happen in your lifetime, but corruption and totalitarianism can rear its ugly head at any time.

Nobody has killed more people than corrupt, tyrannical governments. We're talking in the hundreds of millions here and this does not include militray conflict. The 20th century is riddled with examples of this.

That same history is riddled with those citizens futility fighting back or not, regardless of gun control measures

Alot of gun grabbers say that citizens could never take on the military might of the United States if it goes rogue. America as a nation was born this way. A bunch of rednecks took on the British Imperial army and sent them packing. Guerrilla warfare is tough to defeat. The U.S. can't even beat a 3rd world nation like Afghanistan.

1) One soldier in the army today could almost beat the entire British army from the days of muzzle loaders. But great comparison
2) Are you suggesting that the Taliban could not be removed from power?

Just a few weeks ago, a mall shooter in Oregon was confronted by an armed citizen, the next bullet fired was the shooter ending his own life. There are numerous examples of citizens stopping shootings. Mass shootings ...almost without exception are carried out in gun-free zones like malls, schools, theaters etc.

Why don't they just hang up an "easy pickings" sign?

Mass Shootings happen exclusively where there are mass amounts of people. Weird that they'd be gun free too. Fact: gun homicides>>>>>>>>>>>>>>crimes prevented. You strangely disappeared the last time we covered this and were proven wrong.

Now would be the worst time for Americans to hand in their guns. Mass shootings aside, crime rates have been plummeting due to the gun culture, except in places like Chicago where there are strict handgun laws. Chicago is the most dangerous city in the world right now.

Crime rates dropping due to gun culture? Why are they dropping elsewhere with gun control? Chicago is the most dangerous city? Ridiculous

In addition to this, you have this massive police state looming over America. The Dept. of Homeland Security has purchased 1.6 billion rounds of ammo in the last year for themselves and other government agencies, mostly hollow points too. Remember, DHS is a domestic agency. Americans are being spied on, there are empty prison camps, COG plans, Patriot Act, NDAA, domestic drones etc.

Canada is buying planes too. Better get out my rifle.

Americans are starting to realize this. They have been buying guns at a staggering pace since Obama came in.

Citizens cannot own guns in Mexico. Isn't that going well? The people there are at the mercy of gangs and drug cartels, and government corruption is rampant. If you want to feel safe, just admit yourself to prison.

Citizens can legally obtain guns in Mexico. However, where are all the guns in Mexico coming from........? Probably some place that has almost as many guns as people.....

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Mikey's common sense solutions:

-temporarily suspend gun ownership when mental illness is detected and when a person has a prescription psychotropic.

-turn gun-free zones into places where citizens can conceal-carry or open-carry, including schools, malls etc.

I think this would do more to stop mass shootings than destroying the 2nd amendment.

Another common sense solution.

Cut down on drunk driving accidents and deaths.
- Easier access to more booze for anyone, easier access to vehicles, and less checkstops.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Another common sense solution.

Cut down on drunk driving accidents and deaths.
- Easier access to more booze for anyone, easier access to vehicles, and less checkstops.

Don't forget that everyone should have access to tanks and armoured cars, when you have all those drunken baffoons driving tanks it is important you have a tank yourself, as obviously there is no way to take the tanks away.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Mikey's common sense solutions:

-temporarily suspend gun ownership when mental illness is detected and when a person has a prescription psychotropic.

-turn gun-free zones into places where citizens can conceal-carry or open-carry, including schools, malls etc.

I think this would do more to stop mass shootings than destroying the 2nd amendment.

Dammit I did it again

50 percent of people will suffer from some form of mental illness in their lifetime. How do you propose we set the criteria?

And what psychotropic are we discussing? Sleeping pills? Antidepressants? ADHD meds? Parkinson's medications?

[puffnstuff]

The NRA had their press conference

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," said Wayne LaPierre, NRA's executive vice president.
The NRA also said it is launching a "National School Shield" training program to help — at no cost — schools train security personnel and develop security plans.
And, NRA officials blamed the news media for focusing on what they view as the wrong issue — guns — rather than violent video games and the nation's mental health care programs.

[HPLovecraft]

NRA's big plan? Put armed cops in schools:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...n-control.html

Let the arm's race continue!

[chemgear]

^ God, that NRA segment was painful to watch. You gotta wonder how much they actually believe of the stuff they spew out.

[undercoverbrother]

I said this earlier, but the NRA membership, is about 1% of the US populace. How the hell did it become so powerful?

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I said this earlier, but the NRA membership, is about 1% of the US populace. How the hell did it become so powerful?

It's not really numbers that matter so much in a democratic system like the States. Wealth, profession, network, etc., all do a good job of being a force multiplier.

[polak]

Oh man. Thank you parents for not picking the USA as your country of choice to immigrate too.

Thank. F******. God.

It might only be 1% of the population, but it's a very loud, annoying and enraging 1%.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by chemgear

^ God, that NRA segment was painful to watch. You gotta wonder how much they actually believe of the stuff they spew out.

All of it unfortunately, and unbelieavably to us.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

It's not really numbers that matter so much in a democratic system like the States. Wealth, profession, network, etc., all do a good job of being a force multiplier.

Agreed, but I don't get the impression that most NRA members are particularly wealthy or in influential professions. All of them that I know are just rednecks who like shooting stuff. Their influence really is baffling.

[HPLovecraft]

The best part is the NRA bringing up that ol' bogey man again: video games.