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		|  12-14-2012, 09:34 AM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by TorqueDog  You realize why this makes you look like a moron, right? Canada is not a Christian nation. |  
Tell that to the Constitution that, among other things, enshrines specific rights to Catholic and Protestant education that does not exist for others - and which the Supreme Court has upheld.
 
Canada's entire being is built upon Christian ideals.  And while I am completely non-religious, I have no problem acknowledging this.  Choosing to disagree with the concept of religion does not mean you have the right to deny others their expression of it.  
 
And this is especially stupid given Christmas has long since stopped being a Christian holiday.  It's a generic retail holiday where most people concern themselves more with shopping and socializing than they do Christian dogma.
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		|  12-14-2012, 09:52 AM | #22 |  
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			I seriously don't understand some people, wish me a merry Christmas, happy honokuh, happy Ramadan, happy chinesse new year...I am just thankful you are wishing me a happy something....
		 
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		|  12-14-2012, 10:25 AM | #23 |  
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			This is news to me, I didn't know they had brown folks in Saskatchewan.  I thought it was just White, Native and the odd Chinese family that own the 'Chinese and Western Cuisine' restaurants.
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		|  12-14-2012, 10:35 AM | #24 |  
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			Christmas is a secular holiday and has been since it was a pagan solstice festival.  Christians tried to usurp the holiday and were successful for almost 2000 years but in the end Coke created Santa Claus and the retail sector jumped on board and beat the last bits of christianity out of Christmas.
 The whole Santa mythology and gift giving that is celebrated is almost entirely secular.  Sure some christians still like to associate with the Birth of Jesus but the current values of christmas are entirely secular.
 
 I would even argue that a nativity scene and a Menorah have been taken over and are merely non religious symbols that link back to the history of a country the same way the purpose of Halloween isn't to ward of evil spirits.
 
 We have secularized all our holidays.  Christmas (which includes some lip service to chaunakah) is a Canadian holiday not a christian one.
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		|  12-14-2012, 10:40 AM | #25 |  
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			You would hope that the human rights body kicks this out as frivalous.
 If you take offense to people showing christmas spirit you should really fo ad.
 
 What a a$$hole.
 
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		|  12-14-2012, 10:41 AM | #26 |  
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					Originally Posted by GreenLantern  Thor I totally agree, they should have been sensitive to everyone, cycle in Merry Christmas with Happy Holidays, Hanukkah (the three Jews in Saskatoon would be thrilled).. and every other holiday at that time of year.  But don't demand it be taken off, just added too.  Equal rights, I am all about that, cover all the bases. |  
Have a Happy Hanukkah, a Crazy Kwanzaa, a Tip Top tet, and a Solemn Ramadan!
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		|  12-14-2012, 10:41 AM | #27 |  
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			And a good swift kick in the a$$ day.
		 
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		|  12-14-2012, 10:43 AM | #28 |  
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			Santa's beard is much too Odin-like.  I don't subscribe to Greek Mythology and would like his beard removed and a public apology from the President of Canada for offending me.
 Edit: Wait... We don't have a President in Canada?  I'm offended.
 
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		|  12-14-2012, 11:23 AM | #30 |  
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			People with badly receeding hairlines who don't shave that sh%% off offend me.
		 
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		|  12-14-2012, 11:30 AM | #32 |  
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			 																				Jon Stewart Rips Fox News' Annual 'War On Christmas' Coverage Once Againhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2237279.html
On Monday night's "The Daily Show," Stewart tore apart the cable  network's yearly obsession with defending the holiday by playing "Make  Fox News Mad Libs." He also noted that Bill O'Reilly, Gretchen Carlson  and the rest of the gang don't seem as enthusiastic about covering such  atrocities as nativity scenes being evicted from government buildings as  they used to.
"It's as though the 'War on Christmas' has become a rote observance,  devoid of all its original spiritual meaning," Stewart joked.
But no matter how hard Fox tries to convince its viewers that  Christmas is under attack, Stewart can't help noticing that the holiday  gets bigger and longer every year. Even the Fox News studio "looks like  Santa's balls exploded" and after Thanksgiving was turned into "Black  Thursday" this year, Stewart fears that Christmas might actually be  consuming other holidays (watch your back, Halloween).
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		|  12-14-2012, 11:50 AM | #33 |  
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			Found the asshat's facebook page!  
Watch some disgruntled Christian bus driver run him over tomorrow.
http://www.facebook.com/amgsolo
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		|  12-14-2012, 11:53 AM | #34 |  
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		|  12-14-2012, 01:15 PM | #35 |  
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					Originally Posted by Resolute 14  I'm sorry, but are athiest d-bags not able to use buses with "Merry Christmas" on the signage?  
 Christ, this is no less stupid than if a Riders fan were to complain because Calgary Transit had "Go Stamps Go" on it ahead of the Grey Cup.
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Wow atheists d-bags? Really. 
 
Well first not everyone is Christian, and most Atheists I know could care less about this stuff, in fact its usually the Christians who are the ones all upset over the use of Happy Holidays. We are utterly draped in Christmas decorations, songs and TV for almost 2 months. 
 
This has always to do with the idea that a civic or government institution not be picking a religious side, since Merry Christmas is aimed towards one religion, there are people who wonder why not just be inclusive and say Happy Holidays.
 
If that's d-baggery than sure, have at it hoss.
		 
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		|  12-14-2012, 02:20 PM | #36 |  
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			Personally I think public institutions should be ALL or NOTHING. If a public transit organization want to put up "Merry Christmas" then they should also have "Happy Hanukkah" and "Ramadan Kareem" at the appropriate time of year.  
Tony Clement recently sent out a memo to all government departments that federal employees were allowed to decorate their offices with whatever decorations that are traditions to their faith, whatever that faith may be. So for Festivus (which is secular) I have my Festivus Pole. And for Holiday, I have an ornamental FSM and posters outside my office like this:
   
If Clement had said "Employees are allowed Christmas decorations and other faiths are not allowed decorating" I think there would be calls of discrimination. 
  
And just because "it's tradition" or "Canada was built on Christian values" doesn't mean it has to stay that way. We were progressive and inclusive on things like gay marriage, I think we should strive to be inclusive of people of other religions too. 
  
As for having the statutory holiday on the 25th, I think that is wrong as well. I think employees should be given 8 statutory days off in any given year and they can choose when they want to take them. The Muslims that I work with here take vacation days for the Eids. The one Jewish fellow on the team takes off days during Hanukkah. They would prefer to be able to work the current statutory holidays and use those as vacation days at other times during the year, but it's not allowed.
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		|  12-14-2012, 02:25 PM | #37 |  
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			BTW - I was wondering what would happen if I were a Satanist and decorated my office with a celebration of the "Grand High Climax" with a few pentagrams and some fake blood. Would Tony Clement's dictate apply?
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		|  12-14-2012, 03:25 PM | #38 |  
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					Originally Posted by Thor  Wow atheists d-bags? Really. 
 Well first not everyone is Christian, and most Atheists I know could care less about this stuff, in fact its usually the Christians who are the ones all upset over the use of Happy Holidays. We are utterly draped in Christmas decorations, songs and TV for almost 2 months.
 
 This has always to do with the idea that a civic or government institution not be picking a religious side, since Merry Christmas is aimed towards one religion, there are people who wonder why not just be inclusive and say Happy Holidays.
 
 If that's d-baggery than sure, have at it hoss.
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In what way is Merry Christmas aimed at religion anymore.  It is a secular holiday not a religious one.
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			Meh...Solo is a gadfly who complains about any possible connection between church and state in Saskatoon.  Have a look at this interview here: http://freethoughtblogs.com/crommuni...ith-ashu-solo/  Amongst other things, he has created new branches of math!
		
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					Originally Posted by GGG  In what way is Merry Christmas aimed at religion anymore.  It is a secular holiday not a religious one. |  mas.. Yes Christians certainly don't think its a secular holiday, even though yes I agree 90% of that holiday has nothing to do with Christianity.
		 
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