Don't like it.
I'm still driving an e46 and like the body style much better. If they switch the an M4 and the recent M3's get cheeper I'd be happy though.
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First, the number 4 by itself is unlucky, not 428 or 435, which is what these cars will actually be.
I'm not chinese, but as a realtor in Vancouver I can certainly confirm that the combinations matter. Most buildings don't even make a 4th, 14th or 24th floor because of the unit numbers. It's huge deal having 4s involved at all.
Just way too much going on in their styling these days...it gets old fast. They've lost that understated but elegant presence they used to have. That and their SUV's are looking like their own Chinese knock-offs.
I definitely prefer the e36 generation. Understated and timeless.
I still prefer the E30. Just simple and classic.
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Seriously, Chinese people of Earth, get over this silly obsession with lucky numbers already.
It was kind of fun and quirky back when you were just some far-away land full of MSG and bicycles, but now that you are a functioning member of modern society who's supposedly looking to lead the world, it's time to grow the eff up.
Yes, we all like and dislike certain numbers, but for the rest of us it tends to take a back-seat when we are faced with decisions that require big boy pants. Your house will not be unlucky if it happens to have the wrong number on the door. You don't have to have a baby in the year of some random animal to ensure future success. And you certainly can buy a car that has a 4 in it without dooming your life.
Come on now, it's getting leotarded.
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Seriously, Chinese people of Earth, get over this silly obsession with lucky numbers already.
It was kind of fun and quirky back when you were just some far-away land full of MSG and bicycles, but now that you are a functioning member of modern society who's supposedly looking to lead the world, it's time to grow the eff up.
Yes, we all like and dislike certain numbers, but for the rest of us it tends to take a back-seat when we are faced with decisions that require big boy pants. Your house will not be unlucky if it happens to have the wrong number on the door. You don't have to have a baby in the year of some random animal to ensure future success. And you certainly can buy a car that has a 4 in it without dooming your life.
For me, aggressive is not the right word. It's more about them having too much "styling". There's just lots of stuff going on everywhere you look, which doesn't tend to age well. BMW's used to be a little more understated and tasteful...the beast was still there, but not obviously displayed. Now they look like they are pre-tuned to the tastes of an 18 year old.
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For me, aggressive is not the right word. It's more about them having too much "styling". There's just lots of stuff going on everywhere you look, which doesn't tend to age well. BMW's used to be a little more understated and tasteful...the beast was still there, but not obviously displayed. Now they look like they are pre-tuned to the tastes of an 18 year old.
I honestly mean no offense by this, but is it possible you're just getting old? I know guys that grew up with 50s cars love 50s cars. Guys that grew up in the 60s love 60s cars. Guys that grew up in the 70s pretend the late 70s never happened but love the early 70s cars. You like 80s cars and I bet you were young in the 80s drooling over the current cars at the time.
This BMW seems like an appropriate evolutionary step and doesn't seem radical at all considering their trajectory with the last couple models. I know what you're saying about too much styling not aging well, but I don't think this qualifies. When you have r-tarded vents and scoops and swoops (e.g. Tiburon) you're going to get yourself into trouble, but I predict this will age very well.
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I honestly mean no offense by this, but is it possible you're just getting old? I know guys that grew up with 50s cars love 50s cars. Guys that grew up in the 60s love 60s cars. Guys that grew up in the 70s pretend the late 70s never happened but love the early 70s cars. You like 80s cars and I bet you were young in the 80s drooling over the current cars at the time.
Haha, well that might be part of it! I'm 31 so I don't think I'm "set in my ways" grandpa old yet, but there's probably a little of that. There are quite a few contemporary cars that I think are good as anything from the best decades (eg I think the Audi r8 is an instant classic, and the 458 Italia is the most stunning Ferrari in 20 years), but I do think a lot of new cars are over styled and cladded with crap they don't really need. I definitely think BMW lost the plot a bit the last decade....all started with the Bangle butt.
Keep in mind, I'm a designer myself (unfortunately not cars), so I come at things from a visual perspective because that's what Im trained to do. Over-designed elements bother me more than most.
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Hahaha I was actually thinking the same thing. You're pretty stuck on the 80's era of another European maker.
Haha, well that's because that particular make reached perfection with their product, so there was no point to move on. . I sure like the Cayman that came out last week though....spend a solid 3 hours on the configurator on the weekend.
My favorite cars tend to be from the 60's to the late 90s, so I do have SOME range. I'd love to be able to ogle over new cars, but I just think most of them look like bloated and overweight plastic turds....kind of like the people driving them.
There is not much out there today that comes close to the Pininfarina, Bertone, Giugiaro heyday. IMO of course...
For me, aggressive is not the right word. It's more about them having too much "styling". There's just lots of stuff going on everywhere you look, which doesn't tend to age well. BMW's used to be a little more understated and tasteful...the beast was still there, but not obviously displayed. Now they look like they are pre-tuned to the tastes of an 18 year old.
I'm kind of the same, understated and subtle but still strong is great and usually ages well, while the fancier it gets the faster it seems to go to the side.
This new one I think they actually got pretty close, the body shape and style itself I think is great, I like the hood creases and the nose down to the plate, I like the sides (but not the air vent), and the back end is great, very BMW tail lights. Where it really fails IMO is the bottom half of the car at the front and back, the intakes with all the angles (and gaping), and especially the rear with the exhaust almost look like they were designed by a completely different guy/team. Looks like it belongs on a Viper or muscle car remake or something, something I'd expect to find on a Camaro.
If they could make those parts of the car more understated, I'd be on board I think.
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