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Old 12-03-2012, 11:19 AM   #2481
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How could Troy Aikman compete for this crown, he was 'burdened' with an effective run game and competent offensive co-ordinators!
Not to mention Aikman usually played with a lead.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:23 AM   #2482
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Foles starting the rest of the year. Vick is done.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:00 PM   #2483
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Can someone clear up the confusion on homefield priority tie breakers and why conference record supersedes head to head in certain situations? I know it has to do with 3 way ties in a conference, but I'm still a little unclear on this. If Baltimore and NE end season with the same record, but not the same record as Denver, does Baltimore hold the tiebreaker over NE because head to head kicks back in?

Plus, Baltimore plays Denver in 2 weeks and beating them means they have beaten both NE and Denver, holding the tie breaker over both even if they all somehow finish with same record?

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Old 12-03-2012, 12:57 PM   #2484
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/inde...e_the_big.html

"It was probably the biggest drive of the year for us," said Weeden, who overcame two first-half interceptions to pull out the victory with a clutch 14-play, 94-yard drive.

"It's big," said Weeden, who threw for a season-high 364 yards, most for a Browns rookie quarterback.

Two in a row, and should have beat DAL too.
That team plays hard. They are in a brutal division, but if Weeden keeps progressing they are going to be competitive down the road.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:16 PM   #2485
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Suh proves again why he is a big ######. Disgusting to make fun/taunt an injured player. Didn't he just finish saying two days ago that he isn't a dirty player and people give him a bad rap?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/87...t-lions-antics

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Old 12-03-2012, 02:18 PM   #2486
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That team plays hard. They are in a brutal division, but if Weeden keeps progressing they are going to be competitive down the road.
Not to mention in the last 5-6 games they are top 5 defensively
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:36 PM   #2487
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Suh proves again why he is a big ######. Disgusting to make fun/taunt an injured player. Didn't he just finish saying two days ago that he isn't a dirty player and people give him a bad rap?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/87...t-lions-antics
Is there video of it happening? I'm pretty hesitant to just go off of the word of an opposing player, although I know this isn't the first allegation against him. It's a pretty intense game, and guys will celebrate big hits and talk trash. If he didn't know the player was injured he's really no different than a good portion of the league.
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:39 PM   #2488
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That team plays hard. They are in a brutal division, but if Weeden keeps progressing they are going to be competitive down the road.
We'll see, it is hard to predict the ceiling for a 27 year old QB.
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We'll see, it is hard to predict the ceiling for a 27 year old QB.
Even worse.....he's 29
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Can someone clear up the confusion on homefield priority tie breakers and why conference record supersedes head to head in certain situations? I know it has to do with 3 way ties in a conference, but I'm still a little unclear on this. If Baltimore and NE end season with the same record, but not the same record as Denver, does Baltimore hold the tiebreaker over NE because head to head kicks back in?

Plus, Baltimore plays Denver in 2 weeks and beating them means they have beaten both NE and Denver, holding the tie breaker over both even if they all somehow finish with same record?

here are all the tiebreaking procedures from start to finish...may need a lawyer to figure it all out.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/s...ge=tiebreakers
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:23 PM   #2491
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LOL. Good old John Harbaugh defending Cam Cameron as he said Ray Rice's carries were a not a factor in yesterdays loss these afternoon in his presser. Lets say there coach you're up 20-13, pinned deep in your own endzone in the fourth quarter, RB's are averaging 6.5 YPC at the point, and you're playing the number 1 defense in the league. Cam Cameron ended up going with 3 straight passing players? Quit trying to Joe Flacco into Tom Brady or whoever as he isn't and likely will never be, and instead play to your strength which is Ray Rice running the ball. Zero rushes for Ray Rice in the fourth quarter says it all. Gimme be a break John.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:59 PM   #2492
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here are all the tiebreaking procedures from start to finish...may need a lawyer to figure it all out.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/s...ge=tiebreakers
Yuh, i read it a few times this morning-

I think the scenario here is that NE-Bal-Den are all tied, but because Baltimore and Denver have not played each other yet, head to head cant be applied (even though Bal beat NE). Conference wins kicks in, and NE has the advantage. After the two play each other, the head to head tie breaker kicks back in between these 3 teams if they have the same win-loss record.

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Old 12-03-2012, 09:01 PM   #2493
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Yuh, i read it a few times this morning-

I think the scenario here is that NE-Bal-Den are all tied, but because Baltimore and Denver have not played each other yet, head to head cant be applied (even though Bal beat NE). Conference wins kicks in, and NE has the advantage. After the two play each other, the head to head tie breaker kicks back in between these 3 teams if they are tied.

Yeah...conference wins are the big one if head to hear cant be applied
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:20 PM   #2494
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Drama starting to build in the last month.... With 3 easy games left, theres a good chance Denver takes 2nd AFC when all is said and done. The one huge advantage for NE is they play Texans and 49ers at home, with a small chance that Gronk is back for 49ers game (doubtful though). Their secondary has also looked better the last couple weeks, although Im not sure if Jets and Dolphins are much of a measuring stick.

Everyone seems to be predicting a Baltimore slide the last few games- pretty tough 4 remaining games, especially next week against Wash if Redskins win tonight and they think they have a shot at wild card. For the sake of drama, I really hope Washington wins tonight- opens up a few more scenarios in NFC.

One things for sure- this weekend will be very interesting from a Texans perspective. I really am curious to see how that is gonna go.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:21 PM   #2495
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Good god, the hits keep coming Terrell Suggs has a torn biceps. Terrell Suggs tweeted that he's getting a second opinion on his injured right upper arm. Even if he does play the guy likely will be less than 50%.
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Old 12-04-2012, 12:27 AM   #2496
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NFL would be salivating at WC round, if playoffs ended right now, for 3 matchups...though the 4th, NYG and Bears, would draw big given the two big cities..

PIT/BAL - Round 3
IND/DEN -Peyton vs Luck
SEA/GB - Seattle wins (again!) with the regular refs!

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NFL would be salivating at WC round, if playoffs ended right now, for 3 matchups...though the 4th, NYG and Bears, would draw big given the two big cities..

PIT/BAL - Round 3
IND/DEN -Peyton vs Luck
SEA/GB - Seattle wins (again!) with the regular refs!
If the nfl had an opinion on such things, they'd definitely be rooting for Washington to overtake Seattle.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:43 PM   #2498
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Best news for Eagles fans is that the next head coach probably won't be sold on Foles. Looks like the Eagles will definitely be picking top 10, maybe top 5. Are you hoping for Barkley, Geno Smith or someone else?
I'm OK with Foles going into next year, there really isn't a QB I want in this years draft. The Eagles need O-line help in the worst way. Thought the line had a good day but a tackle is needed for sure. And safties, get me some safties!

As bad as the Eagles are there is still a very slim chance they could win the division! All they have to do is win out and everybody else lose!
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To the Jets fans on the board, why does Rex Ryan keep going back to Sanchez? He got benched in the 7-6 win over Arizona and had only 97 yards with 3 INT's and 0 TD's. McElroy comes in and gets the only TD of the game and sparked the team to a win. Yet it's Sanchez again vs Jacksonville this week. Personally, I think he is a terrible QB. Just wanted to hear the opinions of others, I would have gave McElroy the start. Oh well, Jets suck!
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