11-26-2012, 10:59 PM
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#801
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I swear I just looked a minute ago and the ND was up by almost 1000, now it's only 300. What is the margin for a recount?
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11-26-2012, 11:03 PM
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#802
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
Well I'm replying to how the rest of the country looks at you just as you look at Elizabeth Mae. The other parties that have popped up are even more right wing than the PC. Honestly speaking the Wild Rose looks like a bunch of scary wing nuts and the only thing keeping a lot of the federal PC from crossing the line is the hold that Harper has on them.
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11-26-2012, 11:06 PM
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#803
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Originally Posted by Rerun
How you've suffered under a CPC MP.
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Oh right! Was too busy reading about how Canada, and in particular the federal conservatives, have been the envy of the (industrialized) world in dealing with the worst recession since the 1930's.
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11-26-2012, 11:14 PM
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#804
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Richmond, BC
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Looks like it's over in Victoria. NDP up by 821 with 205/256 reporting.
Really weird how it happened though. I'd love to see a list of the polling stations.
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11-26-2012, 11:16 PM
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#805
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by evman150
Looks like it's over in Victoria. NDP up by 821 with 205/256 reporting.
Really weird how it happened though. I'd love to see a list of the polling stations.
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They probably borrowed Locke's magic spreadsheet.
I like how on CBC tonight their headline was "Locke finishes second" - - don't even want to mention the CPC won....LMAO
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11-26-2012, 11:21 PM
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#806
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Oshawa
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You must look at a different CBC than me. Their front page says that "Tories hold Calgary Centre"
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11-26-2012, 11:22 PM
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#807
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When you hear the the new liberal leadership comments about Alberta and pipelines I am really struck by how far they have moved to the left. If they are going to challenge the tories they really need to move back towards the centre to contest those tory votes. When you think about a guy like Paul Martin, a businessman in the liberal party, where are those people today?
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11-26-2012, 11:25 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Oshawa
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Originally Posted by Flamenspiel
When you hear the the new liberal leadership comments about Alberta and pipelines I am really struck by how far they have moved to the left. If they are going to challenge the tories they really need to move back towards the centre to contest those tory votes. When you think about a guy like Paul Martin, a businessman in the liberal party, where are those people today?
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I think that's why they are in the predicament they are in today. If people want a left wing government, they'll go for the real thing, the NDP, rather than the left wingers pretending to be centrists.
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11-26-2012, 11:28 PM
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#809
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It would be interesting to see what would happen if we had automatic run-offs until someone got at least 50% of the vote.
Bottom first place vote getter drops off and those second choices get added.
In this case bottom three would not have mattered that much to the total, but if Turner was then next to drop off, how would those voter's second preference gone? I suspect Locke would have won under that format.
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11-26-2012, 11:29 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
Well I'm replying to how the rest of the country looks at you just as you look at Elizabeth Mae.
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I am not sure that is true or why I would care that much about what the rest of the country supposedly thinks of Alberta.
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the only thing keeping a lot of the federal PC from crossing the line is the hold that Harper has on them.
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LOL
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11-26-2012, 11:39 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Kinda a sad indictment about how far the Liberal's have fallen.
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Or it's a sign of Conservative weakness since two of the three ridings are strong Conservative seats (55% and 57% in the last election).
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11-26-2012, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cal_guy
Or it's a sign of Conservative weakness since two of the three ridings are strong Conservative seats (55% and 57% in the last election).
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By-election results are not indicative of general election results.
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11-26-2012, 11:53 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Flamenspiel
When you hear the the new liberal leadership comments about Alberta and pipelines I am really struck by how far they have moved to the left. If they are going to challenge the tories they really need to move back towards the centre to contest those tory votes. When you think about a guy like Paul Martin, a businessman in the liberal party, where are those people today?
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Chased out by the Red Liberals in the party. The Blue Liberals are all but extinct now.
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11-26-2012, 11:55 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Originally Posted by moon
I am not sure that is true or why I would care that much about what the rest of the country supposedly thinks of Alberta.
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That's why Crockett's whole platform consisted of toeing Harper's line.
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11-27-2012, 12:22 AM
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Originally Posted by Flamenspiel
When you hear the the new liberal leadership comments about Alberta and pipelines I am really struck by how far they have moved to the left. If they are going to challenge the tories they really need to move back towards the centre to contest those tory votes. When you think about a guy like Paul Martin, a businessman in the liberal party, where are those people today?
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http://2013.marthahallfindlay.ca/
She's pro-pipeline.
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11-27-2012, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SebC
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And she's got Carter on her team. Victory here she comes. 
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11-27-2012, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by evman150
As much as you may dislike May (she's not my favourite either), she was just voted parliamentarian of the year. Not a good example at all.
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Do you understand how parliamentarian of the year is awarded? She essentially was given an inflated ranking because there are no other Green MP's.
And after tonight there is still... one Green MP. The fact that they're gaining momentum is pretty alarming to me, further left vote-splitting. I almost wanted to see Locke win just to provide some optimism for Liberal supporters that they'll re-emerge at the federal level next time out but given the news cycle it would have also been a tacit endorsement (or at least a non-condemnation) of Trudeau/McGuinty which would not be an acceptable outcome.
I don't know anything about MHF, anyone have any comments on her besides what's on her website?
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11-27-2012, 08:06 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: the middle
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Originally Posted by cal_guy
Or it's a sign of Conservative weakness since two of the three ridings are strong Conservative seats (55% and 57% in the last election).
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This a by-election, these are "fake" results. This was the only chance to shakeup the CPCs attitude in Calgary by electing a different MP but instead it will go back to being the same. No showing up to debates, only being in Calgary at all if they want to be.
Next general election Crockatt will win 50+% just like Richardson was always able to.
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11-27-2012, 08:07 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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I wonder how the pathetic voter turnout affected this decision.....cause 30% seems just dismal.
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11-27-2012, 08:07 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by OffsideSpecialist
You must look at a different CBC than me. Their front page says that "Tories hold Calgary Centre"
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I was referencing the evening news. They barely acknowledged the fact that CPC had won.
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