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Old 11-19-2012, 12:20 PM   #2201
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Perhaps Michonne is thinking that whoever are enemies of her enemies are her friends? Or more likely to be friends than foes? It would seem that she knows she needs people to help her out, injured as she is. She's able to observe Glen & Maggie without them knowing about it & that would reveal more about who they are (you'd think) than the facade she was presented with at Woodbury where they knew she was looking.
On top of all this, she's also injured.
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On top of all this, she's also injured.
She can also tell that the group is very likely a compassionate group, considering she saw Glen and Maggie making out, and the fact that the group is taking care of a baby. So the group looks like a fairly safe one to try to join. I think bringing the supplies is either an offering to them, or a guarantee that they'll let her in (sure they could go out again and scout for more supplies).
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I think the supplies will be part of how she proves she's telling the truth - otherwise how would she know that there was a baby at the prison?

I have a feeling that the midseason finale will end with Darryl & Merle coming face to face for the first time....then those b@stards will make us wait 2 months to see what happens.
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She can also tell that the group is very likely a compassionate group, considering she saw Glen and Maggie making out, and the fact that the group is taking care of a baby. So the group looks like a fairly safe one to try to join.
The only flaw with that theory is that she disliked Woodbury from the outset. At the begining Woodbury presented itself as kind, kids running around, Phillip even mentioned they had some births. Yet M seemed to dislike the palce from day one.
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I think Rick and Michonne meeting is going to make for one amazingly hardcore zombie killing duo. The crappy thing is the formal "introduction" is a bit hindered by her inability to speak with so many walkers all around her.

Like everyone else, I hope this hostage situation doesn't go on for more than three episodes.

I hope Merle and Darryl never come back in contact with eachother. In fact, if they ever did, I think they'd be so far apart mentally that Darryl would end up abandoning him (or killing him in favour of protecting the group).

I was thinking ahead to future seasons, and I'm wondering if they're going to advance in time where Carl and the baby are around the ages of, say, Carl being 18 and the little girl being 6-8 years old. And if so, how are they going to advance their age in future seasons without completely scrapping Carl and opting for an older looking teenager who looks like Carl would look like grown up? It'll be interesting for sure. I hope they go for another six or more seasons.
Absolutly Rick, Daryl and Michone are going to be a zombie killing bloodfest. I can't wait to see that action. I hope we get a peek into her past.
I wouldn't be surprised if she gives Rick a spontaneous display of her talents on the walkers around her to show Rick she is well worth bringing in.
It should be interesting to see when they go for the rescue. Micchone did some pretty good surveillance of that compound.

I dislike the Governor character and Andrea even more now which is good as a viewer you want the villain to be heinous just like Merle too.

Merle vs Daryl is going to happen in last season episode i think...unless the Governor kills him for lying about Micchone having her head chopped off. That showdown should be good either way.
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The only flaw with that theory is that she disliked Woodbury from the outset. At the begining Woodbury presented itself as kind, kids running around, Phillip even mentioned they had some births. Yet M seemed to dislike the palce from day one.
Except Andrea has likely talked to Michonne about her old group, Michonne trusted Andrea so she doesn't have the same reason to fear Rick's group in the prison. Even if Andrea didn't give Michonne specific names of people on the old group Michonne knew that Merle's brother was with that group. Once Merle talked to Glen about Darryl Michonne would have known Glen and Maggie were from Andrea's old group and would have no reason to think Rick's group was bad.
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Except Andrea has likely talked to Michonne about her old group, Michonne trusted Andrea so she doesn't have the same reason to fear Rick's group in the prison. Even if Andrea didn't give Michonne specific names of people on the old group Michonne knew that Merle's brother was with that group. Once Merle talked to Glen about Darryl Michonne would have known Glen and Maggie were from Andrea's old group and would have no reason to think Rick's group was bad.
Except I am Andrea mentioned that she was left behind when she was speaking to Merle. I think she maybe a little pissed that nobody came back to look for her.......I am not sold on Andrea being a fan of Rick's group.
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Except I am Andrea mentioned that she was left behind when she was speaking to Merle. I think she maybe a little pissed that nobody came back to look for her.......I am not sold on Andrea being a fan of Rick's group.
It's the context of how she was left behind, it's not like they packed up one day and left her there. It was chaos because of the hoard the came to the farm, Andrea spent months with Michonne and would have known the whole story, unlike a 30 second conversation with Merle. Anyway I don't find it to be much of a stretch that Michonne would trust Rick's group, even just having come from the situation in Woodbury.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:12 PM   #2209
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I have a feeling we'll see Daryl have to choose between Merle and the group at some point, and he'll choose the group.
I think they're totally setting this up. Darryl has been showing a lot more leadership skills lately, and I thought the baby scene with Darryl was pretty telling. Baby's crying, Carl hands baby to Darryl, baby stops crying, Darryl asks what the baby's name is while cuddling her. He's not the redneck hardass that his brother Merle once knew.

I agree with other posters - I could totally see the the first half cliffhanger being a Darryl/Merle confrontation.
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Yup, been thinking that for a while now. It's almost as if Merle was a bad influence on Darryl. You could see him beginning to change and soften almost right from the beginning.

Even when I wasn't sure if we'd see Merle again, I thought that might be the way they go with it.

As for Michonne, I've got all sorts of questions about that. Why didn't she tell her suspicions to Andrea when she wanted the two of them to leave? Can't really blame Andrea for wanting to stay. M is just giving her cryptic stuff like 'they don't allow anyone to leave' and 'it's not right here' instead of flat out saying, 'I'm pretty sure they killed those troops to take their gear and I think they've been doing it to other people as well. Oh, and your lover boy has his walker daughter locked up in a closet.'

Also wondering why they thought it was so important to go after her.
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Because they are of the mentality of if you're not with us you're against us. She left so she needs to die.

She spoke in generalities because she didn't have proof, it was her gut feeling about the place. She said as much to Andrea, that's why Andrea didn't leave because she wanted proof not just a hunch. She didn't know about Penny, she never actually got the door open before the Governor, Merle, and the researcher walked in.
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I couldn't really buy the deep discussions they kept having about "the fights". They were worse than the WWF and Andrea was carrying on like they were slaughtering people. Then when she buys into them it was just too much cheese for me.

Great season so far though. So many story lines that I can't wait to see get played out.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:33 PM   #2213
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Except I am Andrea mentioned that she was left behind when she was speaking to Merle. I think she maybe a little pissed that nobody came back to look for her.......I am not sold on Andrea being a fan of Rick's group.
I think her experience at Woodbury and subsequent hunting by Merle may have changed Michonne's mindset a bit, especially with her injury.

I think she realizes now that she needs more than just her to survive and either go back at Woodbury or just get where she wants to go.

Andrea is a pretty cold bitch so even though she wouldn't have talked glowingly about the group she likely would have mentioned that they were overall good people and not a threat to her or others.

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He's not the redneck hardass that his brother Merle once knew..
I may have misheard the story that Darryl told about when he was a kid and his mom died as I was in the other room but it sounded like Darryl may not have been that big of a hardass at all other than when Merle was around. Didn't he say something about being able to go play with the other kids since Merle wasn't around any more?

Is so (and if that isn't what he said I guess this is crap) he may have been like most people but just made hard because of his older domineering brother and absentee mom.

Either way he certainly seems to be much different than Merle no matter how hard he tries to be a badass loner.
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I couldn't really buy the deep discussions they kept having about "the fights". They were worse than the WWF and Andrea was carrying on like they were slaughtering people. Then when she buys into them it was just too much cheese for me.
Any scene with Andrea is bad enough but throw in the Governor as well and it is a smorgasboard of bad acting and for some reason terrible writing.
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Everything Andrea did that episode seemed obviously fake to me.

Almost like she knows the only way to figure out what is really going on is by playing the governor.
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Any scene with Andrea is bad enough but throw in the Governor as well and it is a smorgasboard of bad acting and for some reason terrible writing.
David Morissey is great, probably the best actor on the show.

Andrea was kinda turning cool last season, rouge wall Jump aside she's kinda gone crap again.
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Everything Andrea did that episode seemed obviously fake to me.

Almost like she knows the only way to figure out what is really going on is by playing the governor.
Really? I think she's just stupid. If she had any suspicions about the governor and Woodbury, she would have left with Michonne.
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David Morissey is great, probably the best actor on the show.

Andrea was kinda turning cool last season, rouge wall Jump aside she's kinda gone crap again.
Might be that I just don't like the character then or that Andrea is so bad I can't get past that and project it on him.
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I may have misheard the story that Darryl told about when he was a kid and his mom died as I was in the other room but it sounded like Darryl may not have been that big of a hardass at all other than when Merle was around. Didn't he say something about being able to go play with the other kids since Merle wasn't around any more?

Is so (and if that isn't what he said I guess this is crap) he may have been like most people but just made hard because of his older domineering brother and absentee mom.

Either way he certainly seems to be much different than Merle no matter how hard he tries to be a badass loner.
Actually, I think you're bang on. I like that theory. Being around his hard brother made Darryl harder.

Jeez that sounds dirty...

It's interesting that Darryl (and the actor that plays him) is the most popular character on the show. I love the Han Solo comparison.
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My question is why does M feel the need to help/support Rick's group? She knows nothing of them. How does she know they are no nutcases like Woodbury? It seems a bit too fast for a character that has previously shown herself to be careful of strangers.

On the face the people of Woodbury seem more sane than those living in a jail.
Andrea and Michone spent a long time tonight, she knows that Rick's group left Merle behind. She heard Merle talking to Glenn about it. She seems like a smart chick and I think she figured out that 1+1=2.

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The only flaw with that theory is that she disliked Woodbury from the outset. At the begining Woodbury presented itself as kind, kids running around, Phillip even mentioned they had some births. Yet M seemed to dislike the palce from day one.
She knows who Rick's group is because Andrea is one of those chick's that never stops talking.
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