Breaking Bad

[DownhillGoat]

So I normally don't nitpick details, but the train robbery episode (while being my favorite episode) is bugging me. A lot.

Maybe somebody in the rail industry can shed some light on this. The carseals they take off to get to the nozzles/drain points. Any carseal I've ever seen has a serial number on it. If they cut it off and put a new one on, it would have a different serial number. And given that it's such a federal case if any of this chemical goes missing, I'd be damn sure that those numbers are recorded and verified upon arrival.

I don't buy that madrigal would have been able to obtain the car seal numbers and have a replica created.

No real point to that rant, really.

[PowerPlayoffs06]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

So I normally don't nitpick details, but the train robbery episode (while being my favorite episode) is bugging me. A lot.

Maybe somebody in the rail industry can shed some light on this. The carseals they take off to get to the nozzles/drain points. Any carseal I've ever seen has a serial number on it. If they cut it off and put a new one on, it would have a different serial number. And given that it's such a federal case if any of this chemical goes missing, I'd be damn sure that those numbers are recorded and verified upon arrival.

I don't buy that madrigal would have been able to obtain the car seal numbers and have a replica created.

No real point to that rant, really.

Generally in shipping, seal numbers are logged on the manifests or bills of lading; which Lydia had access too. They looked like the cheap tin kind that are just stamped with a number and would be easy to copy, not the fancier embossed plastic ones with company logos and stuff.

[Reanimate]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

So I normally don't nitpick details, but the train robbery episode (while being my favorite episode) is bugging me. A lot.

Maybe somebody in the rail industry can shed some light on this. The carseals they take off to get to the nozzles/drain points. Any carseal I've ever seen has a serial number on it. If they cut it off and put a new one on, it would have a different serial number. And given that it's such a federal case if any of this chemical goes missing, I'd be damn sure that those numbers are recorded and verified upon arrival.

I don't buy that madrigal would have been able to obtain the car seal numbers and have a replica created.

No real point to that rant, really.

The carseals are often tracked initially, but laziness and lost paperwork, make it a huge bitch to track.

[polak]

I've been avoiding this thread like the plague but yesterday I finished season 4 so only 8 more episodes until I can join the conversation!

There were a couple things I didn't like/was confused about in the season 4 finale but I wouldn't be suprised if it was brought up or explained later:

Spoiler!

So it wasn't the Riscen that poisoned Brock, but what happend to Jessie's Riscen cig? Also when did Walt have time to poison the kid?

Like I said, this show seems to be pretty solid with filling plot holes so I'm assuming both of those will be explained but yeah.

[red sky]

Most of that is covered later. The answer to your last question doesn't really get answered however.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by polak

I've been avoiding this thread like the plague but yesterday I finished season 4 so only 8 more episodes until I can join the conversation!

There were a couple things I didn't like/was confused about in the season 4 finale but I wouldn't be suprised if it was brought up or explained later:

Spoiler!

So it wasn't the Riscen that poisoned Brock, but what happend to Jessie's Riscen cig? Also when did Walt have time to poison the kid?

Like I said, this show seems to be pretty solid with filling plot holes so I'm assuming both of those will be explained but yeah.

Actually there is a scene that you have already seen that hints as to what happened to Jesse's cigarette. It does get fully explained later, but a lot of people on the interwebz noticed it before the season 5 confirmation. For fun maybe go back and take a look at the last two episodes.

As for when Walt had time to do it, yeah that bugs me too, and hasn't really been explained yet. I hope they do and it's not just a writing hole.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Actually there is a scene that you have already seen that hints as to what happened to Jesse's cigarette. It does get fully explained later, but a lot of people on the interwebz noticed it before the season 5 confirmation. For fun maybe go back and take a look at the last two episodes.

Details for those who don't plan on re-watching those episodes?

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

Details for those who don't plan on re-watching those episodes?

Sure.

Spoiler!

I believe it's in the second to last episode of season 4, but it might be the last, but when Jesse gets called into Saul's office he is stopped and patted down by Hulle. The excuse is made that Hulle is just keeping Saul safe with all the extra heat going on, but he's actually lifting Jesse's smokes on orders for Saul who is on orders from Walt. (Some people say that if you pause it you can actually see it happen. I'm not sure myself, but I did suspect this as it happened.) So as to set up the confrontation later and blame Gus for Brock being sick. This is confirmed at the end of the first episode of season five when Walt goes to visit Saul.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by normtwofinger

I agree with the Chileans having something to do with the final part of the season. This show is so accurate with it's foreshadowing, and we really haven't seen any details as to what Gus' past was, or who he was involved with before joining the Mexican cartel.

I like this direction. I hope the show doesn't end without tying up Gus' Chilean link.

[Wormius]

Maybe I missed some clues in the shows, but what was eluded to with respect to Gus' Chilean past? I didn't see much of a backstory.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Maybe I missed some clues in the shows, but what was eluded to with respect to Gus' Chilean past? I didn't see much of a backstory.

It was in the episode where they show Gus and his business partner (a friend so close they were like brothers, hence Pollos Hermanos) propositioning the cartel to sell their meth. I think it may have been one of the flashback parts that started before the title screen. They mentioned they and their chicken recipe were Chilean.

And of course we remember what happened to the partner.

However, I do wonder what all the fans here are saying about the Chilean cartel and connections to them. I don't remember him ever saying he was part of a Chilean cartel or even that there was one.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by Daradon

However, I do wonder what all the fans here are saying about the Chilean cartel and connections to them. I don't remember him ever saying he was part of a Chilean cartel or even that there was one.

Yeah I'm not too sure of that either. While granted Gus would have a lot of back story, I don't think there's exactly any loose threads that would have to be tied up with regards to his past story-wise.

[Kybosh]

I'm fully expecting a Shakespearean tragedy here where the majority of characters throughout the series end up dead.

[Cain]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

Yeah I'm not too sure of that either. While granted Gus would have a lot of back story, I don't think there's exactly any loose threads that would have to be tied up with regards to his past story-wise.

The part that would bother me is that episode where Gus basically dares the sniper to shoot him, knowing that he wouldn't. It was alluded to that the mexican cartel didn't dare kill him because of his connections or something...

So then Walt goes and kills him....no repercussions? It'd be a bit weird.

Maybe I'm misremembering, but it'd bug me a bit if it is never addressed...though I'm not sure it will be.

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Maybe I missed some clues in the shows, but what was eluded to with respect to Gus' Chilean past? I didn't see much of a backstory.

There's nothing said explicitly about what Gus' background was, but after Gus' "brother" was offed by Hector, Don Eladio said to Gus, "The only reason you are alive and he is not is because I know who you are. But understand. You are not in Chile anymore."

[nik-]

It might have just been a reference to him being connected to the Junta which would fit in the time frame. There are no Chilean cartels, at least nothing on the scale that a Mexican or Colombian cartel would give pause for.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Cain

The part that would bother me is that episode where Gus basically dares the sniper to shoot him, knowing that he wouldn't. It was alluded to that the mexican cartel didn't dare kill him because of his connections or something...

So then Walt goes and kills him....no repercussions? It'd be a bit weird.

Maybe I'm misremembering, but it'd bug me a bit if it is never addressed...though I'm not sure it will be.

Then again everyone thinks it was the Mexican cartel that offed Gus. Remember in the episode "Say my name" the distributors needed Mike to confirm that it was actually Heisenburg not the Mexicans that killed Gus. I wouldn't be surprised if you hear Hank, Gomey, or Hank's boss make reference to a drug war south if the boarder and hope it doesn't come north.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Then again everyone thinks it was the Mexican cartel that offed Gus. Remember in the episode "Say my name" the distributors needed Mike to confirm that it was actually Heisenburg not the Mexicans that killed Gus. I wouldn't be surprised if you hear Hank, Gomey, or Hank's boss make reference to a drug war south if the boarder and hope it doesn't come north.

Yes, because basically it was technically Hector that suicide- bombed Gus. It would make sense for everybody to believe it was Mexican retaliation for Gus offing all of the senior Mexican cartel members. Nobody has really explained or question how Hector got a bomb.

[RW99]

Jessie got an Emmy, yo!

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by RW99

Jessie got an Emmy, yo!

Said it was his second, I thought it was his first? I thought Esposito won last year? (Gus)