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BlackRedGold25 · 09-10-2012, 04:20 PM

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Something I was thinking about early in the season that I forgot to share regarding the diner scene in the first episode. They seem to want us to know it's his birthday, to hint at the elapse of time, show his state of mind in that he's obviously missing his family as he's tearing up his own bacon in a memory of what he used to have, etc.

Also keep in mind that Walt mimics an action of people whose death he's been directly responsible for - cutting the crusts of his sandwiches like Krazy 8, taking his drinks on the rocks like Mike, etc. Is this foreshadowing Skylar's fate?

Wormius · 09-10-2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackRedGold25

Also keep in mind that Walt mimics an action of people whose death he's been directly responsible for - cutting the crusts of his sandwiches like Krazy 8, taking his drinks on the rocks like Mike, etc. Is this foreshadowing Skylar's fate?

.. Empire building like Gus.

HalifaxDrunk · 09-12-2012, 08:03 AM

Daradon · 09-12-2012, 04:50 PM

Another thing I was thinking about with the flash forward on the first episode of season five was that it's probably a good bet that Walt used that 'relocation specialist' that he wanted to use in season four but couldn't cause Skyler used the money on Beneke's problem. That would explain the new address, new ID etc. Now he's back in ABQ to finish some business, take revenge, or help someone out.

Flash Walken · 09-12-2012, 06:11 PM

I'm thinking there is Cartel retribution for gus and who they might see as an employee or mastermind behind gus.

Why else would Walt need such an outrageous amount of firepower?

Daradon · 09-12-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackRedGold25

Also keep in mind that Walt mimics an action of people whose death he's been directly responsible for - cutting the crusts of his sandwiches like Krazy 8, taking his drinks on the rocks like Mike, etc. Is this foreshadowing Skylar's fate?

Very well could be, but I think he may just be missing his family. Whether they have left or are maybe dead, could be either. Though I guess that would be part of what you mean by Skyler's fate?

I could see most of the cast dying, heck they seem to have started that already with Mike and all. I just hope Jesse and Saul stay in the pink.

I still think Jesse may kill Walt. Hey I was right about Hank and the half season cliffhanger.

HELPNEEDED · 09-12-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I'm thinking there is Cartel retribution for gus and who they might see as an employee or mastermind behind gus.

Why else would Walt need such an outrageous amount of firepower?

To kill Hank who cannot approach this from a legal perspective due to his closeness with Walt. Further, Hank is POd so he will not want to use the law, Hank has been shot and left crippled, been taking care of Walt's family, and been having marital problems all due to Walts prio-uknown meth business. This is personal, Hank is going to chase Walt down. To expand, remember the conversation about monsters: Walts the monster of monsters. To add more, Hank and Jesse now share the role of protagonist whereas walt has successfully transformed into the antagonist. Hank will win the day unless the writer, who is epic amazing, makes us love and adore Walt again.

Flash Walken · 09-12-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HELPNEEDED

To kill Hank who cannot approach this from a legal perspective due to his closeness with Walt. Further, Hank is POd so he will not want to use the law, Hank has been shot and left crippled, been taking care of Walt's family, and been having marital problems all due to Walts prio-uknown meth business. This is personal, Hank is going to chase Walt down. To expand, remember the conversation about monsters: Walts the monster of monsters. To add more, Hank and Jesse now share the role of protagonist whereas walt has successfully transformed into the antagonist. Hank will win the day unless the writer, who is epic amazing, makes us love and adore Walt again.

But why an m60?

BlackRedGold25 · 09-12-2012, 10:52 PM

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To kill Hank who cannot approach this from a legal perspective due to his closeness with Walt. Further, Hank is POd so he will not want to use the law, Hank has been shot and left crippled, been taking care of Walt's family, and been having marital problems all due to Walts prio-uknown meth business. This is personal, Hank is going to chase Walt down.

Chase Walt down? That'd take five seconds since Walt's right outside and Hank is in his crapper.

The writers have set it up beautifully so that we don't know which way Hank will go with this revelation. Will he be the stoic guy who refused to lie his way out the beating he gave Jesse and turn Walt in despite knowing it will ruin his career? Or will he put his career and family first by not going after Walt?

Wormius · 09-12-2012, 11:04 PM

I think this goes against Hank's M.O. which, to some degree is ego driven. He wants everybody to know that he caught / brought down Heisenberg. I think Walt is going to make it hard, but Hank can still operate within the law.

Still, if anybody from Walt's circle finds out that he could be arrested by Hank, he could have other threats to deal with. Personally, I think Lydia would put a hit out on Walt and Hank. If either is killed, it offers her some protection against being arrested herself.

Mike F · 09-13-2012, 07:23 PM

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Also keep in mind that Walt mimics an action of people whose death he's been directly responsible for - cutting the crusts of his sandwiches like Krazy 8, taking his drinks on the rocks like Mike, etc. Is this foreshadowing Skylar's fate?

I think that whole thing about Walt mimicking the actions of those he killed is a reach too far.

Walt had that drink with Hank just a day or so after killing Mike, and it's Hank that suggests the type of drink, and offers it to Walt on the rocks. There's no reason to think that, between killing Mike and the drink at Hank & Marie's,Walt and Hank had another drink where Walt established his new preference.

BlackRedGold25 · 09-13-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike F

I think that whole thing about Walt mimicking the actions of those he killed is a reach too far.

Walt had that drink with Hank just a day or so after killing Mike, and it's Hank that suggests the type of drink, and offers it to Walt on the rocks. There's no reason to think that, between killing Mike and the drink at Hank & Marie's,Walt and Hank had another drink where Walt established his new preference.

On an ordinary show I'd agree with you but Breaking Bad is no ordinary show. They've shown a laser focus on details. They don't tend to show things for no reason.

Why would they include details like cutting the crusts off or having Hank bring attention to Walt having his drink on the rocks when throughout the series he's always had them neat. It's not like Walt is so meek and mild mannered at this point that he wouldn't want to correct Hank.

I think it's also telling that Hank, who is so damned determined and observant when it comes to his cases pays Walt so little attention that he doesn't even know how Walt takes his drink.

Tinordi · 09-13-2012, 11:25 PM

The Chileans will probably surface as the threat

getbak · 09-14-2012, 12:46 AM

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The Chileans will probably surface as the threat

My money is on the Czechs.

Coys1882 · 09-14-2012, 08:44 AM

My money is on Skinny Pete and Badger - those two are up to something.

normtwofinger · 09-14-2012, 04:19 PM

I agree with the Chileans having something to do with the final part of the season. This show is so accurate with it's foreshadowing, and we really haven't seen any details as to what Gus' past was, or who he was involved with before joining the Mexican cartel.

vektor · 09-16-2012, 11:34 AM

My prediction;

Walt kills hank, Lydia, the Chileans and the Czechs when they all come after him. Skyler loses her #### and is about to go the FBI or the DEA while Walt is trying to explain he had to, Walt decides he can't risk losing all the money he made for his kids and that he hates Skyler so he decides to kill Skyler. Jesse finds out and kills Walt as he tailed them to the storage locker where all the money is, Jesse starts giving money to all the families he and Walt destroyed. I am pretty sure Walt will somehow have to be destroyed by Jesse because Jesse was the only one that had pure(ish) intentions, he never became egomaniacal like Walt. Jesse probably ends up in jail and Skyler bails him out or something like that.

Maritime Q-Scout · 09-16-2012, 11:58 AM

I finally caught up and don't have the time to go through the whole thread, but... is anyone else surprised Skyler hasn't tried to use Jesse to get back at Walt? I totally thought she was going to sleep with Jesse. As you recall from season 1, Jesse is a big fan of milfs.

MrMastodonFarm · 09-16-2012, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

I finally caught up and don't have the time to go through the whole thread, but... is anyone else surprised Skyler hasn't tried to use Jesse to get back at Walt? I totally thought she was going to sleep with Jesse. As you recall from season 1, Jesse is a big fan of milfs.

No.

Daradon · 09-17-2012, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

I finally caught up and don't have the time to go through the whole thread, but... is anyone else surprised Skyler hasn't tried to use Jesse to get back at Walt? I totally thought she was going to sleep with Jesse. As you recall from season 1, Jesse is a big fan of milfs.

Lol! No that never crossed my mind. I doubt Jesse would anyway, he's way more loyal that Walt.