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macker · 09-10-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by valo403

He's not interested in making a first impression when he goes to a hospital for treatment, he's interested in treatment.

True and when I open the paper and see this guy I react the same way the clerk likely did. It isn't entirely right but that is the way it is. Is it really surprising or a big deal.....

valo403 · 09-10-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by macker

True and when I open the paper and see this guy I react the same way the clerk likely did. It isn't entirely right but that is the way it is. Is it really surprising or a big deal.....

Well if it results in him being denied treatment, and let's not pretend that getting your paperwork filled out isn't a fairly important part of getting treated (seems like it's often the lengthiest part too), then it is a big deal and very surprising.

Yasa · 09-10-2012, 01:49 PM

Did he go to the ER to have his wrist wrapped in a tensor bandage? I didn't read the article.

HPLovecraft · 09-10-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by macker

True and when I open the paper and see this guy I react the same way the clerk likely did.

You should probably work on that, then.

TorqueDog · 09-10-2012, 02:23 PM

The boy's father commented on the story:

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Originally Posted by Bullen

9:14 AM on 9/10/2012

I understand everyone will feel compelled to jump to their conclusions and everyone has a right to their opinion, but I would like to address some of the posts as this is my son who I love very much and support him regardless of what he chooses to wear because he is a compassionate, caring, law biding individual.

He doesn't live at home, he's gainfully employed, highly intelligent, extremely creative, pays his taxes, abides by the law, and is an incredible skateboarder. I was going to take pictures of him at the competition when I found he hurt himself. I met him at the hospital and witnessed the events as they unfolded. He was just trying to get admitted and was polite at ALL times. The hospital has yet to respond, but he was undeniably discriminated against which is wrong. His removal request was not to aid in any procedure as he was still in emergency trying to get admission.

Judge this as you wish, but bigotry in health care is abominable.

Cannot agree more.

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Originally Posted by Iginla

Where are the people citing "We've only heard one side of the story"?

Oh right, any chance to bash religion.

A lot of people are taking his words at face value.

So typical. precious Flame's prospect gets charged with a serious assault, and people want to hear the full story, wait until it goes to court, wait until he's convicted before they form an opinion.

But this guy obviously gets the benefit of the doubt, he seems like a real winner.

This post is so stupid that the real Jarome Iginla should sue you for defamation, lest someone believe you to be the same person.

Traditional_Ale · 09-10-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TorqueDog

The boy's father commented on the story:
Cannot agree more.

I called it.

mustache ride · 09-10-2012, 02:45 PM

Ya way out of line. First guy in the history of the world to get emotional about a Symbol that insults the very core of his personal beliefs. Probably never see that again in your lifetime guys!

The Yen Man · 09-10-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by macker

True and when I open the paper and see this guy I react the same way the clerk likely did. It isn't entirely right but that is the way it is. Is it really surprising or a big deal.....

Sorry, but that guy's job does not let him be opinionated like that and refuse service. How is what he did any different than if he was a hardcore Flames fan and denied the guy service because he was wearing an Oilers hat?

johnnyrocket03 · 09-10-2012, 02:53 PM

The whole thing really is dumb...As easy as it was for the hospital just to ignore it and not make a big deal, isnt it just as easy for him to take it off and put it in his pocket? Seems awfully ridiculous given the situation on both sides to get so worked up over a necklace.

Yasa · 09-10-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyrocket03

The whole thing really is dumb...As easy as it was for the hospital just to ignore it and not make a big deal, isnt it just as easy for him to take it off and put it in his pocket? Seems awfully ridiculous given the situation on both sides to get so worked up over a necklace.

He shouldn't have to put it in his pocket. It shouldn't have even been brought up during admittance.

Traditional_Ale · 09-10-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyrocket03

The whole thing really is dumb...As easy as it was for the hospital just to ignore it and not make a big deal, isnt it just as easy for him to take it off and put it in his pocket? Seems awfully ridiculous given the situation on both sides to get so worked up over a necklace.

What if had it tattooed on his face or neck?

johnnyrocket03 · 09-10-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Yasa

He shouldn't have to put it in his pocket. It shouldn't have even been brought up during admittance.

Fair enough but for me personally, I would need to know a bit more context about why it was asked to be removed before i passed judgement on either side.

Just seems dumb to get so enraged over a piece of jewelery, on either side.

johnnyrocket03 · 09-10-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

What if had it tattooed on his face or neck?

He didnt, so that doesnt matter.

valo403 · 09-10-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyrocket03

He didnt, so that doesnt matter.

Why? If it was something that couldn't be removed what should the outcome have been?

The Yen Man · 09-10-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyrocket03

The whole thing really is dumb...As easy as it was for the hospital just to ignore it and not make a big deal, isnt it just as easy for him to take it off and put it in his pocket? Seems awfully ridiculous given the situation on both sides to get so worked up over a necklace.

I disagree. If you allow this to go unnoticed and unpunished, who's to say the next person isn't going to deny service to someone because they're offended by something else? What if I told you I'm offended by your t-shirt that says "Free Tibet". Does that mean you should have taken it off before I admit you? It sets a terrible precedent.

johnnyrocket03 · 09-10-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by valo403

Why? If it was something that couldn't be removed what should the outcome have been?

It doesnt matter because that isnt what happened. What's the sense in going over "what if's"?

johnnyrocket03 · 09-10-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I disagree. If you allow this to go unnoticed and unpunished, who's to say the next person isn't going to deny service to someone because they're offended by something else? What if I told you I'm offended by your t-shirt that says "Free Tibet". Does that mean you should have taken it off before I admit you? It sets a terrible precedent.

As i said above, for me personally, i would need to know more context before i passed judgement.

If he asked him to remove it for safety or some practical reason then i dont have an issue with it, if he asked him to remove it because of discrimination then its not acceptable but either way i think everyone is getting a little too worked up about it. My opinion is that everyone in general is a little over sensitive these days.

The Yen Man · 09-10-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyrocket03

As i said above, for me personally, i would need to know more context before i passed judgement.

If he asked him to remove it for safety or some practical reason then i dont have an issue with it, if he asked him to remove it because of discrimination then its not acceptable but either way i think everyone is getting a little too worked up about it. My opinion is that everyone in general is a little over sensitive these days.

I agree that there's always two sides to every story, but the fact that the hospital is so quick to apologize and offer no reasoning for the employee's actions is pretty telling IMO.

Yasa · 09-10-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyrocket03

As i said above, for me personally, i would need to know more context before i passed judgement.

If he asked him to remove it for safety or some practical reason then i dont have an issue with it, if he asked him to remove it because of discrimination then its not acceptable but either way i think everyone is getting a little too worked up about it. My opinion is that everyone in general is a little over sensitive these days.

I can't see why removing a necklace would be a safety concern for a wrist injury. He wouldn't be getting an MRI or anything for that.

johnnyrocket03 · 09-10-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Yasa

I can't see why removing a necklace would be a safety concern for a wrist injury. He wouldn't be getting an MRI or anything for that.

Like i said, safety or another practical reason. Im not sure what sort of treatments would be provided for a wrist injury, im also not certain what his wrist injury was: laceration or break/sprain.