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Old 09-09-2012, 01:30 PM   #41
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Back onto the weed topic, my friend just texted me asking if I had any. I stopped that stuff back at the start of August, but if I actually had some, it would prove my point that weed is easier to acquire than liquor in high school.


It's not rocket science. Weed is easier to get than liquor in high school because there are weed dealers looking to make money off weed and finding HS customers is easy.

There aren't any alcohol dealers that frequent high schools.
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Her brain isn't finished cooking at 16; she's better off with the alcohol at that stage. Though I see where you're coming from.
Hahaha what? Are you referencing the brain-on-drugs fried egg of misinformation ad from the 80s?
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Wait a sec...

So you cousin is driving, while smoking pot. The cops pull him over, but don't charge him with an driving while stoned offence, but simply take his fatty away.......I find that hard to believe.
No policeman in western Canada is going to build a career on small pot busts, it's just pointless paper work to them. Judges usually see such cases as a waste of court time and tax-payer money, and will burn a cop that's pumping the system full of such cases. Studies have also shown that toking and driving actually makes you a safer and more cautious driver. So the cop has really got no motivation for any kind of follow through.

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It's not rocket science. Weed is easier to get than liquor in high school because there are weed dealers looking to make money off weed and finding HS customers is easy.

There aren't any alcohol dealers that frequent high schools.
Alcohol was super easy to get in high school:
1) wait outside liquor store
2) pay some guy $10-20 to hook you up (it took 5-6 tries at most to find someone)
3) Party
And that's only if someone doesn't already have an older sibling or friend. Weed dealers are often super-unreliable people, but the liquor store is always open.
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Wait a sec...

So you cousin is driving, while smoking pot. The cops pull him over, but don't charge him with an driving while stoned offence, but simply take his fatty away.......I find that hard to believe.
I thought it was hard to believe when I was in the car with him the first, second, third time. Then I started realizing that they really don't give a crap about a single joint, even if it is while he's driving.

I thought for sure he'd get a DUI, but he didn't and doesn't.

Like the Matata said, small insignificant charges aren't going to get you anywhere as a cop and are essentially a waste of time.
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:27 PM   #46
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No policeman in western Canada is going to build a career on small pot busts, it's just pointless paper work to them. Judges usually see such cases as a waste of court time and tax-payer money, and will burn a cop that's pumping the system full of such cases. Studies have also shown that toking and driving actually makes you a safer and more cautious driver. So the cop has really got no motivation for any kind of follow through.



Alcohol was super easy to get in high school:
1) wait outside liquor store
2) pay some guy $10-20 to hook you up (it took 5-6 tries at most to find someone)
3) Party
And that's only if someone doesn't already have an older sibling or friend. Weed dealers are often super-unreliable people, but the liquor store is always open.
1) Cops are always in the liquor store parking lot.
2) Liquor store closes at 9. Weed dealers, unless they aren't already fried, are willing to sell at any time.

It might have been easier 10-15 years ago, but rarely does asking a complete random stranger to pull for you ever work.
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Do you have a source? I know neither is ideal, but by all accounts alcohol is a much more dangerous drug.
Hardcore abuse of either is not good. But marijuana is a psychoactive drug; alcohol isn't. When you alter the brain chemistry before the brain is able to handle it, you can have some very negative long term effects.

Now in all likelihood, if the use is only casual/experimental, you're probably going to be fine. But if you're a young, hardcore pot smoker, there's a better than average chance you'll leave a lot of what you could have been on the table.

With all that said, these drugs are for grown-ups. Kids shouldn't take them, and the fear of kids taking them shouldn't be preventing grown ups from engaging in these behaviors responsibly.
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alcohol kills brain cells. They're both not ideal, but the actions undertaken on weed are far less likely to be damaging than alcohol.
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alcohol kills brain cells. They're both not ideal, but the actions undertaken on weed are far less likely to be damaging than alcohol.
I'm not saying weed is bad. I'm saying if you're a kid, you probably shouldn't smoke it. I enjoy the hell outta weed, but I freely admit I sound like a huge dumbass when I'm high. Beer seems to permit discussions to continue.
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Studies have also shown that toking and driving actually makes you a safer and more cautious driver. .
can you provide some links for that please?
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I think all non addictive substances should be legal - I don't see why the government feels the need to regulate everything. There was an interesting article on reddit about if alcohol would have been discovered today, and the legality of the discovery. Several legal drugs (booze and smokes) are a lot more addictive than several illegal substances (psilocybin, LSD).

Edit - by legal, I mean legal for adults.
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If weed were to be legalized, they would need to sell it in the same way they sell cigarettes. Must be 18 to buy, and keep it hidden behind a curtain. They could do without the graphics on the packaging, though.

Also, the price of weed would have to go down significantly or else a pack of 18 joints would cost $180.
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Wait a sec...

So you cousin is driving, while smoking pot. The cops pull him over, but don't charge him with an driving while stoned offence, but simply take his fatty away.......I find that hard to believe.
Me and my friends were once hot boxing a car in a parking lot off some major high way in Alberta. The RCMP pulled in, caught us red handed and did nothing about it. They just told us not to smoke too much and drive.
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I'm not saying weed is bad. I'm saying if you're a kid, you probably shouldn't smoke it. I enjoy the hell outta weed, but I freely admit I sound like a huge dumbass when I'm high. Beer seems to permit discussions to continue.
Why are you high in the middle of a Sunday afternoon?
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I thought it was hard to believe when I was in the car with him the first, second, third time. Then I started realizing that they really don't give a crap about a single joint, even if it is while he's driving.

I thought for sure he'd get a DUI, but he didn't and doesn't.

Like the Matata said, small insignificant charges aren't going to get you anywhere as a cop and are essentially a waste of time.
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Why are you high in the middle of a Sunday afternoon?
Hahaha zing, I like it.

I like to get high and go to the church across the street and just marvel during the services. It's amazing, try it some time.
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I wonder if Jean Charet would do well as a Federal Lib leader?
In Charest's federal career, he was a conservative (albeit, a Progressive Conservative).
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Even with a majority, he can't go full on social conservative because that's not what people elected him for. He was elected because people perceived a measure of fiscal responsibility from him in a time where the economy scares everyone (rightly or wrongly). They couldn't push the online surveillance bill through without raising an uproar, and if he goes too conservative on the social side of things, he just makes it easier to vote him out/back to a minority next election.
Made me think of this great episode of south park:

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can you provide some links for that please?
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http://norml.org/library/item/mariju...tific-evidence



tldr: weed makes you very paranoid, but doesn't have a strong impact on motor skills, so the extra caution you drive with stoned more than negates the minor loss of coordination. This is less true with less experienced smokers, but they are too paranoid to drive anyway.

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http://norml.org/library/item/mariju...tific-evidence



tldr: weed makes you very paranoid, but doesn't have a strong impact on motor skills, so the extra caution you drive with stoned more than negates the minor loss of coordination. This is less true with less experienced smokers, but they are too paranoid to drive anyway.

Dude, totally ignoring the fact that you posted a link from a website dedicated to legalizing marijuana, what I find funny is that your own link says

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Although cannabis intoxication has been shown to mildly impair psychomotor skills, this impairment does not appear to be severe or long lasting. In driving simulator tests, this impairment is typically manifested by subjects decreasing their driving speed and requiring greater time to respond to emergency situations.
That's a far cry from "Studies have also shown that toking and driving actually makes you a safer and more cautious driver."
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