09-09-2012, 02:43 AM
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Yeah, I really don't like the shift to US style justice decisions, especially when we can see that their policies have failed.
Mandatory minimums and tougher drug laws are backwards thinking. I doubt they get a majority next time.
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09-09-2012, 02:44 AM
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True dat. The minority kept his social conservatism in check. Now with a majority we're seeing the social side of the conservative policy. :/
Oh well, by the sounds of Ontario and Quebec, he won't win next time. All the Liberals have to do is elect a leader with more brains than Dion and more charisma than Ignatieff...
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Time to elect a guy named Bertschi.
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09-09-2012, 03:12 AM
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True dat. The minority kept his social conservatism in check. Now with a majority we're seeing the social side of the conservative policy. :/
Oh well, by the sounds of Ontario and Quebec, he won't win next time. All the Liberals have to do is elect a leader with more brains than Dion and more charisma than Ignatieff...
Aw crap...
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and a minority government was the cause of millions of wasted dollars with the early elections. While a majority government has its downfalls, with the economic crisis at a peak around the time of the last election we needed a majority government.
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09-09-2012, 03:18 AM
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and a minority government was the cause of millions of wasted dollars with the early elections. While a majority government has its downfalls, with the economic crisis at a peak around the time of the last election we needed a majority government.
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I wouldn't call having an election wasting dollars. It's a democracy, that's a good thing. Secondly, millions of dollars is a drop in the bucket compared to budgets in the billions. Third, your argument (statement really) has nothing to do with the topic or marijuana laws or the pros and cons of social conservatism, it's just a poorly veiled 'hooray' for a Harper majority.
We get it, you like it.
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09-09-2012, 03:24 AM
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I wanted them to have a chance but Conservatives just can't stick to being fiscally conservative and have to start messing with other crap. They won't get a majority next time and they only have themselves to blame.
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09-09-2012, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
and a minority government was the cause of millions of wasted dollars with the early elections. While a majority government has its downfalls, with the economic crisis at a peak around the time of the last election we needed a majority government.
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It's funny that you want to bring the economic crisis into this. May I remind you that then-minority Harper government only created their economic stimulus program because they would have been toppled otherwise?
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09-09-2012, 04:56 AM
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It's funny that you want to bring the economic crisis into this. May I remind you that then-minority Harper government only created their economic stimulus program because they would have been toppled otherwise?
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I couldn't care less. I just said we needed a majority, never said who I supported.
And to whoever said an election isn't a waste of money, it is when you have one every 2.5-3 years. It's extra money that could be spent in a better places and I think it creates more voter apathy because people get tired of the elections.
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09-09-2012, 04:58 AM
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I wouldn't call having an election wasting dollars. It's a democracy, that's a good thing. Secondly, millions of dollars is a drop in the bucket compared to budgets in the billions. Third, your argument (statement really) has nothing to do with the topic or marijuana laws or the pros and cons of social conservatism, it's just a poorly veiled 'hooray' for a Harper majority.
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I never said who I supported and I wasn't the one who brought up Harper
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09-09-2012, 05:00 AM
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Yes, but the problem is that I can't.
You guys probably remember when that was the case and how friggin' difficult it was to get liquor in HS. If not, you either had strict parents or a DUYA.
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Or that most of us aren't from Saskatchewan.
I will grant you that it was easier 20 years ago- if you got caught the store owner would give you a high-5 for trying as opposed to calling the police. And we didn't have "ID if under 30" rules in place.
However with the drinking age being 18; that means some of the grade 12s would be old enough to buy booze. That has been the arguement as to why most provinces have a 19 drinking age. However aside from the "18 is an adult" arguement, I can also see that it's probably better for a 16 year old to be having a few beers than smoking pot. (Strictly from a legal vs. illegal substance point of view.)
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09-09-2012, 06:08 AM
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I'd way rather my daughter smoke pot at 16 than drink alcohol. Way less crap can go south when somebody is high versus drunk.
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09-09-2012, 12:23 PM
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I don't really think anyone needs more than 5 plants for personal use. My neighbor had three plants last year and he had to have had close to a pound (or over) when he harvested. Mind you this is Vancouver Island and you have a long growing season, and he started them early in his greenhouse.
If Harper makes six or more plants a serious offense, is it really a big deal? That is a lot of pot.
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09-09-2012, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire
Personally, I don't smoke pot, but I've been with my cousin numerous times when he's been pulled over while smoking a joint.
I don't know about elsewhere, but everytime my cousin's been pulled over it has been in the Lower Mainland and the cops simply seize the joint and crush it on the ground and say, "have a nice day".
So, from real world experiences the cops are fairly lenient unless you've got a crap ton on you. At least in the Lower Mainland that's how I've experienced it.
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Wait a sec...
So you cousin is driving, while smoking pot. The cops pull him over, but don't charge him with an driving while stoned offence, but simply take his fatty away.......I find that hard to believe.
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09-09-2012, 12:29 PM
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True dat. The minority kept his social conservatism in check. Now with a majority we're seeing the social side of the conservative policy. :/
Oh well, by the sounds of Ontario and Quebec, he won't win next time. All the Liberals have to do is elect a leader with more brains than Dion and more charisma than Ignatieff...
Aw crap...
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Justin Trudeau!!!!
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09-09-2012, 12:56 PM
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I wonder if Jean Charet would do well as a Federal Lib leader?
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09-09-2012, 12:59 PM
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I wonder if Jean Charet would do well as a Federal Lib leader?
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Maybe in 95, but not after he just got his ass kicked.
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09-09-2012, 01:17 PM
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True dat. The minority kept his social conservatism in check. Now with a majority we're seeing the social side of the conservative policy. :/
Oh well, by the sounds of Ontario and Quebec, he won't win next time. All the Liberals have to do is elect a leader with more brains than Dion and more charisma than Ignatieff...
Aw crap...
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Even with a majority, he can't go full on social conservative because that's not what people elected him for. He was elected because people perceived a measure of fiscal responsibility from him in a time where the economy scares everyone (rightly or wrongly). They couldn't push the online surveillance bill through without raising an uproar, and if he goes too conservative on the social side of things, he just makes it easier to vote him out/back to a minority next election.
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09-09-2012, 01:19 PM
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It's already happening GL, the mandatory minimums had a lot of people upset.
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09-09-2012, 01:19 PM
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I'd way rather my daughter smoke pot at 16 than drink alcohol. Way less crap can go south when somebody is high versus drunk.
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Her brain isn't finished cooking at 16; she's better off with the alcohol at that stage. Though I see where you're coming from.
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09-09-2012, 01:23 PM
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Her brain isn't finished cooking at 16; she's better off with the alcohol at that stage. Though I see where you're coming from.
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Save that stuff for summer vacation, when your brain is the least used component in your head.
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09-09-2012, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Her brain isn't finished cooking at 16; she's better off with the alcohol at that stage. Though I see where you're coming from.
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Do you have a source? I know neither is ideal, but by all accounts alcohol is a much more dangerous drug.
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