Cop Hits Four-year Old Girl With Motorcycle, Then Kills Dad

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

Stop bullying me!!

If I do come across as an ass, at least I'm smart enough not to attempt to promote my business while acting like an ass. For all you know, you could be supporting this asses business!

It's obvious you don't support a place for men to get help when they need it. That is true. That's fine.

To promote such a fact and belittle it is a different story. You're being an ass when you do that.

I have been messaged by multiple people who want to help from my exposure. That is a win in my books. The more people want to help the better!

Now excuse me while I ignore the rest of your cancerous posts.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

My experience with the CPS is the polar opposite. When I was in my 20's, I was at a club on Electric Avenue and was smoking a joint in the bathroom with a couple buddies when the cops walked in. We looked at them and they looked at us and said "That's a cigarette, right?" We said "Right" and tossed in the crapper. End of story.

With all due respect, what year was this?

Until now, I have never heard of the CPS taking anyone down for smoking a joint.

It was in public. Stephen Avenue, actually. Honestly, if they had arrested us first I probably wouldn't have been sharing the anecdote.

As others have said, when dealing with police, I find it best to observe the golden rule. Treat them how you would like them to treat you.

Why would anyone in their right mind expect respect from a cop if they show the cop zero respect?

Act like an ignorant jerk, expect the police to treat you as one.

It was not nor has ever been my intention to act like an "ignorant jerk" towards anyone, especially a cop. However, I will agree that blatantly smoking up on Stephen Avenue was both ignorant and jerk-ish.

[Reanimate]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

Yeah, joints are soooo dangerous. I don't smoke them but I have no problem with them as well. Heroin, Meth or cocaine is different. And nobody should be subject to that treatment for a joint.

It doesn't matter if they are dangerous. It's illegal.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

With all due respect, what year was this?



It was in public. Stephen Avenue, actually. Honestly, if they had arrested us first I probably wouldn't have been sharing the anecdote.



It was not nor has ever been my intention to act like an "ignorant jerk" towards anyone, especially a cop. However, I will agree that blatantly smoking up on Stephen Avenue was both ignorant and jerk-ish.

The 80's.

[Titan]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

I would say you could be right.
I don't know if they are required to in the USA or just have the option to carry their service revolver if they want to but my point is if they are not required to carry a handgun off duty then it doesn't mean they are obligated to so why carry a handgun.

My stance on handguns is probably different than most so I will leave it at that.

You ask why he carried the gun. Assuming it was legally being carried, for whatever reason, it appears that it saved his life in this instance.Unfortunately, this case provides significant evidence that carrying a concealed weapon can save your life.

[Titan]

Contrasted with the Empire State situation where equally legal guns being carried by police officers may have put innocent civilians at significant risk.It seems that both sides of the gun control argument got another bullet in the chamber of their arguments, if you can excuse the horribly tacky and insensitive metaphor.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Reanimate

It doesn't matter if they are dangerous. It's illegal.

What are the exact laws on weed in Canada now a days? Last I heard it wasn't fully legal, but not a criminal charge, either (if it's a personal amount, aka a joint).

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

It's obvious you don't support a place for men to get help when they need it. That is true. That's fine.

To promote such a fact and belittle it is a different story. You're being an ass when you do that.

I have been messaged by multiple people who want to help from my exposure. That is a win in my books. The more people want to help the better!

Now excuse me while I ignore the rest of your cancerous posts.

Oh the drama.

Now you're putting words in my mouth. I said no such thing and you know it. You never demonstrated a need for it and wouldn't even answer specific questions about the shelter where you volunteer.

You have this annoying habit of having a tantrum when encountering anyone not sharing your world view - just like a child.

[Reanimate]

Originally Posted by flameswin

What are the exact laws on weed in Canada now a days? Last I heard it wasn't fully legal, but not a criminal charge, either (if it's a personal amount, aka a joint).

It's illegal and fineable in any amount. But it's a criminal offense I believe after a certain amount. I dunno. That's what I recall, I'm no lawyer.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

Oh the drama.

Now you're putting words in my mouth. I said no such thing and you know it. You never demonstrated a need for it and wouldn't even answer specific questions about the shelter where you volunteer.

You have this annoying habit of having a tantrum when encountering anyone not sharing your world view - just like a child.

Nope. I did and you chose to ignore it.

Child... lol

There is no tantrum, you just acted like an a-hole then and now so I choose to discuss with others who are logical and choose to add to a discussion.

If you want to know more, I think you should see it for yourself and visit as that would benefit you more than discussing it with me on this forum. You can talk to the man who has been doing this for 20 years. We are going to have an open house BBQ in September and please feel free to come. We will accept contributions then too. I'll post the info closer to the date.

[Reanimate]

You guys should have kids, and then let them toddler fight.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Reanimate

I will never understand people who hate Police Officers. They absolutely have one of the worst jobs in the civilized world. There job is to basically deal with the #### of society on a daily basis so we don't have to.

I would think that dealing with the #### of society is a rather small part of a regular cops day and that for the most part they deal with normal citizens and other cops, especially in Canada.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

Nope. I did and you chose to ignore it.

Child... lol

There is no tantrum, you just acted like an a-hole then and now so I choose to discuss with others who are logical and choose to add to a discussion.

If you want to know more, I think you should see it for yourself and visit as that would benefit you more than discussing it with me on this forum. You can talk to the man who has been doing this for 20 years. We are going to have an open house BBQ in September and please feel free to come. We will accept contributions then too. I'll post the info closer to the date.

You'll have to point out to me where you answered this post.

Originally Posted by longsuffering

One thing you haven't shown is what kind of demand there would be for a 'men's shelter'.

At the shelter you volunteer at, how many beds are there? What is the occupancy rate? How many abused men are turned away? What is happening in other Canadian cities? Provide MEANINGFUL answers to those kinds of questions and maybe you wouldn't come across as a zealot.

I can't help but think the homeless would end up filling most of the beds.

I'm guessing you didn't answer the questions because the answers wouldn't support your premise.

Looks like I'm right.

In the two years since MASH opened, Silverman claims more than 30 men (some with children) have been helped at his shelter. MASH receives no government funding; Silverman and a business partner have been funding the operation out of their own pockets and with the help of a few private donations.

Silverman says his partner is moving on to other endeavours and he’s currently unemployed, making the increasing financial strain to keep MASH going unmanageable. He says he’s tried to get provincial funding for MASH more than six times but the process is unproductive and each time the government tells him there’s "no demonstrated need" for a men's shelter in Calgary.

Christina Bruce, spokesperson with Alberta Human Services says the provincial government has made a continued effort to help male victims of domestic violence and that many public resources, including family abuse shelters, are available to men.

“Violence no matter what gender is an issue that we have to keep trying to address,” says Bruce. “No one that contacts the shelter, male or female, is turned away without help.”

http://www.openfile.ca/calgary/calga...as-against-men

[longsuffering]

Apologies to all for hijacking the thread.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

Apologies to all for hijacking the thread.

Are you kidding? You've made the thread.

[Rathji]

I hate to being the thread back on topic, but what kind of person finds out his daughter was involved in an accident, and instead of helping her, proceeds beat the guy who hit her senseless?

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

Ditto you come across as a real ahole.

No, I think a real A-hole is the guy who doesn't respect police officers. Calls other users annoying when they question his second hand stories. And the guy who has a history of stalking members of this site when they disagree with them.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by Iginla

No, I think a real A-hole is the guy who doesn't respect police officers. Calls other users annoying when they question his second hand stories. And the guy who has a history of stalking members of this site when they disagree with them.

? Who did I stalk? When did this happen? Point out the poster and examples!

What is your real issue?

I would LOVE to get a retired police officer and an officer 5 years in the force on a debate about current law enforcement. It use to be about public relations, understanding and common sense; now it's about intimidation and control, and the "war on terror". Most retired officers I've been in communication with share my view on the current police officer. My uncle is a retired fire chief so I have talked to many through his get togethers... Those boys can drink!

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the guys out there stopping the heavy drugs and break and enters. I appreciate the guys stopping idiot drivers or drunk drivers. I appreciate the guys out there stopping organized crime. I don't appreciate them when they feel they need to push their weight around because they are bored. When they stop you at a stop sign for not coming to a complete stop when nobody else is around for a mile (common sense says there is no danger so why harass). I don't appreciate the current tactics of domestic disputes when a woman can say anything without proof and the man would be arrested on the spot or a woman can lie in a police report but not get arrested when it is found out she lied and made a false claim wasting everyone's time.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by Rathji

I hate to being the thread back on topic, but what kind of person finds out his daughter was involved in an accident, and instead of helping her, proceeds beat the guy who hit her senseless?

It is a worst case scenario. It's awful and a horrible read, but nothing can truly be known until official facts come into light. Police are also trained in restraining a person and I wonder if this comes into play as well.

If I had a daughter and he hurt her I'm not sure if I would totally go into hulk mode and want to smash. If I'm being honest with myself I would like to believe I'd cradle her in my arms and carry her to get help... Like I said it's a worst case scenario and we don't know what we would do until our lives are instantly destroyed.

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

It's the personality of cops that I can't stand. I met one really good one in my day and the rest I have had dealings with have puffed up chests and huge egos. I even had 2 cops try to pick a fight with myself and a few other friends.

Also, from the stories of abused fathers that have to deal with them, I can see why cops as a group are getting the label that they have.

I'm not a criminal, but I sure don't like cops in general.

Change every time you used the word cop to bus driver, baker, mailman or whatever you like. Hell, change it to whatever race, colour or creed you want.... Now tell me if what you typed doesn't make you look like a prejudiced, bigoted d-bag.

I'm not saying you are, I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of some of the cop bashing on here.