Tim Thomas Stands with Chick-Fil-A (i.e. against gay marriage)

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Did you even read your first article before shooting your mouth off? Barely any news outlets actually covered it, did you stop to think that perhaps no one had heard about it yet?

The fact that no one here posted about it is not us condoning the event, and alluding to that conclusion makes you look incredibly silly.

Nevermind that you again miss the difference between "restricting free speech" and people exercising free speech to criticize bigotry. Until you learn that difference, there is no point engaging you in any sort of meaningful discussion on the matter.

I did read those articles and if you havn't heard about the shooting maybe you need to pick better news sources.

The GLBT community chose to use their free speech to characterize this Christian lobbying group as a hate group. The results was this gun man.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

I did read those articles and if you havn't heard about the shooting maybe you need to pick better news sources.

The GLBT community chose to use their free speech to characterize this Christian lobbying group as a hate group. The results was this gun man.

I, for one, am shocked and dismayed that a security guard was shot by someone who was clearly supporting Tim Thomas in his efforts to back Chik-Gil-a, by purchasing many sandwiches and storing them in his backpack to give to his Christian brethren who had obviously not had a chance to show their support already.

I bet he was carrying a legally obtained firearm for self defense and saw that the security guard was trying to stop him from enjoying his essential liberties, and tried to put that liberal brainwashed hippy guard out of his misery before he could offer him tickets to the Stampede or something.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

I did read those articles and if you havn't heard about the shooting maybe you need to pick better news sources.

The GLBT community chose to use their free speech to characterize this Christian lobbying group as a hate group. The results was this gun man.

Some random blogger posted on a site with the slogan "Exposing and combating Liberal media bias". And you're telling ME to pick better news sources. Look in the mirror.

So wait, the LGBT using their free speech isn't cool to (rightfully) point out that the FRC is a detrimental organization, and yet Tim Thomas and Dan Cathy using their free speech to dehumanize and support restricting the rights of a significant portion of the population is? Christian is a polite synonym for 'hypocrite', I see.

FRC is a group that supports bigotry and the limiting of human rights and free speech. They're as near to a hate group as you can get without active participation in violence, and the only reason it's taboo to say it publicly is because they claim it is part of their religious beliefs.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Lunatics (of any political persuasion or sexual orientation) who shoot people are clearly in the wrong. There is no excuse for violence and, although the FRC is a vile organization, there is absolutely no justification for inflicting violence upon them.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Lunatics (of any political persuasion or sexual orientation) who shoot people are clearly in the wrong. There is no excuse for violence and, although the FRC is a vile organization, there is no absolutely justification for inflicting violence upon them.

Thank you. Alluding that our omission is endorsement is absurd.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Some random blogger posted on a site with the slogan "Exposing and combating Liberal media bias". And you're telling ME to pick better news sources. Look in the mirror.

So wait, the LGBT using their free speech isn't cool to (rightfully) point out that the FRC is a detrimental organization, and yet Tim Thomas and Dan Cathy using their free speech to dehumanize and support restricting the rights of a significant portion of the population is? Christian is a polite synonym for 'hypocrite', I see.

FRC is a group that supports bigotry and the limiting of human rights and free speech. They're as near to a hate group as you can get without active participation in violence, and the only reason it's taboo to say it publicly is because they claim it is part of their religious beliefs.

I guess by your standards the LGBT is a hate organization.

Dan Cathy used his free speech in support of the tradition family. Marriage is not a right in the USA. Right now in all but, a few States it is a licience issued to heterosexual couples only.

Nothing is being taken away from gays. Rather the LGBT community is demanding something they have never had. Apparently at least one is willing to kill to silence the opposition.

[RougeUnderoos]

Weird. I saw the story all over CNN today, including this nut's connection to the LGBTs. I wonder if anyone got fired for breaking the left-wing media blackout of this crime.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Apparently at least one is willing to kill to silence the opposition.

In 2008, there were over 1200 incidents of violence against LGBT in the United States. For more info, read http://www.civilrights.org/publicati...imes/lgbt.html which details some of the beautiful lives that were taken away by hatred and ignorance.

Supposed Christians have inflicted thousands and thousands of cases of violence against the LGBT community yet you use the actions of one nutbar to smear an entire community.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

I guess by your standards the LGBT is a hate organization.

Dan Cathy used his free speech in support of the tradition family. Marriage is not a right in the USA. Right now in all but, a few States it is a licience issued to heterosexual couples only.

Nothing is being taken away from gays. Rather the LGBT community is demanding something they have never had. Apparently at least one is willing to kill to silence the opposition.

LGBT is a hate organization?

Are LGBT groups attempting to keep straight people in this country from doing anything? Are they trying to nullify their marriages? Restrict their rights to spousal benefits? LGBT groups are attempting to even the playing field. LGBT groups want the right to openly show their love for their partner with legal backing and the benefits that come with it. They are searching for acceptance and approval. They are not seeking to hurt anyone, only to stop being hurt themselves.

Also, ask Matthew Sheppard's family how they feel about your opinion that only the LGBT side is willing to kill for their stance. Or ask the families of the hundreds of LGBT kids who are bullied to the point of suicide on a yearly basis.

This is notable because it's the exception to the rule, far more often the overly zealous members of the conservative side are violent and hateful.

[MRCboicgy]

I had heard about it, but I hadn't pursued the story further because of so much gun violence the last few weeks down there.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Weird. I saw the story all over CNN today, including this nut's connection to the LGBTs. I wonder if anyone got fired for breaking the left-wing media blackout of this crime.

Maybe the call-out motivated them. The story broke yesterday.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

I guess by your standards the LGBT is a hate organization.

LGBT is not an "organization". Its an acronym used to describe a community. That community is very diverse and does not speak with one voice. It is not possible for the LGBT community to be a "hate organization".

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Marriage is not a right in the USA. Right now in all but, a few States it is a licience issued to heterosexual couples only.

Nothing is being taken away from gays. Rather the LGBT community is demanding something they have never had.

For the thousandth time, no one is discussing or asserting a "right to marriage." The issue is the right to equality.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Maybe the call-out motivated them. The story broke yesterday.

Possibly, but I doubt an organization like CNN takes their cues from obscure conspiracy theory blogs.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Nothing is being taken away from gays. Rather the LGBT community is demanding something they have never had.

So women and minorities aren't entitled to equal rights, because they didn't have them before?

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Maybe the call-out motivated them. The story broke yesterday.

Ridiculous. CNN had a reporter there when it broke. I was watching live when they were talking to the reporter outside the building just after the shooter was arrested. They even mentioned the Chik-Fil-A aspect of it in that spot as it was rumored he had a bag of sandwiches. But keep that head in the sand CB, you against the the world, right?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by troutman

So women and minorities aren't entitled to equal rights, because they didn't have them before?

Boom!

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

I guess by your standards the LGBT is a hate organization.

By no one's standards does the LGBT community qualify as an organization to begin with. Please tell me where they attempt to dehumanize anyone.

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Dan Cathy used his free speech in support of the tradition family. Marriage is not a right in the USA. Right now in all but, a few States it is a licience issued to heterosexual couples only.

And we use our free speech to tell Dan Cathy he's an idiot. Equality is what is being fought for.

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Nothing is being taken away from gays. Rather the LGBT community is demanding something they have never had - equality. Apparently at least one is willing to kill to silence the opposition.

Fixed. And your last point is hilarious coming from a Christian. Sorry, you'll have to remind me who it is that is willing to firebomb abortion clinics and murder doctors.

If you want to play that game and start attributing the actions of one person to an entire community, then you'll have to embrace Army of God and other faith-driven psychos as representative of your own.

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Nothing is being taken away from blacks. Rather the slaves are demanding something they have never had. Apparently at least one is willing to kill to silence the opposition.

Change a couple of words and see how ridiculous this sounds?

[You Need a Thneed]

There was widespread condemnation of the FRC shooting from the LGBT community. There was a massive joint press release.

[SeeBass]

08-15-2012, 11:52 AM #3808 SeeBass
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There has been a shooting at the Family Research Council


This was my post on the US politics thread. I mentioned it cause I saw it on CNN.
Note time and date, they were covering this story