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Addick · 08-08-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke

I think you might be expecting a little too much of Giroud.

While I don't think he'll be able to provide the impact RvP had last season, I do think he'll be able to replace the goals we should be expecting from our striker.

A collective effort from the entire squad will be required to replace RvP's impact from last season.

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Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

I'd have taken Juve's offer, but if that aint on the table anymore I think it is better to have him see out his contract and provide some continuity up front rather than strengthen either of the two Manc teams.

Arsenal are trying to make a statement this summer and allowing him to stay would be taking a couple of steps backward. They need to show that you are either 'in' or 'in the way' and that all obstacles will be removed. As his statement, which is almost un-retractable, shows he is clearly not 'in' with the Arsenal. As such, he must leave.

How can this be done? Tell him he can either lower his wage demands to push through a deal we find acceptable or he can rot on the bench. As part of this stance, we should have left him off the plane to Germany this week. Arsenal must sell him.

Locke · 08-08-2012, 01:07 PM

I agree. I cant see keeping van Persie if he wont sign. Unfortunately, that will affect his sale price. Arsenal just have to try and find the happy medium.

Barnet Flame · 08-08-2012, 02:30 PM

Wenger to Fergie and Mancini:

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Gentle-men, I have no need to talk with you, goodbye.

devo22 · 08-08-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke

Angry Alex....

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...-moura?cc=5901

I dont get why this angers him? Robinho clearly hated his time in Manchester and probably knows Moura better than SAF.

So if a player tells another player that a certain city sucks based on the fact that the two players probably have similar expectations of the city they live in then who cares?

"Drat! He found out before we could trap him here!"

of course this angers him. Wouldn't you be pissed if Liverpool were on the verge of signing a key player for a big fee, but then a former Everton player - let's say Rooney - comes along and tells the guy that the city of Liverpool sucks and he should go somewhere else instead of joining Liverpool. Don't tell me that you wouldn't be pissed ...

d_phaneuf · 08-08-2012, 07:15 PM

Robinho and this 'former Everton player' would both be telling the truth...

d_phaneuf · 08-08-2012, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Addick

While I don't think he'll be able to provide the impact RvP had last season, I do think he'll be able to replace the goals we should be expecting from our striker.

A collective effort from the entire squad will be required to replace RvP's impact from last season.

I think even if RVP stays a collective effort will be required to replace his impact

he had basically the perfect season

Carloza certainly helps, if Ox plays more he should as well

Locke · 08-09-2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by devo22

of course this angers him. Wouldn't you be pissed if Liverpool were on the verge of signing a key player for a big fee, but then a former Everton player - let's say Rooney - comes along and tells the guy that the city of Liverpool sucks and he should go somewhere else instead of joining Liverpool. Don't tell me that you wouldn't be pissed ...

No way, you just bid good riddance. If it was that easy to change his mind the guy is probably a flake who wasnt in it for the long haul anyways.

devo22 · 08-09-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke

No way, you just bid good riddance. If it was that easy to change his mind the guy is probably a flake who wasnt in it for the long haul anyways.

well, according to his sneaky agent, the deal with United was already agreed when PSG came along:

"Everything was agreed between São Paulo and Manchester United. The contract had been written and just needed to be signed. But then Leonardo [PSG Sporting Director] called me and asked to talk to Lucas. They talked. Leonardo was helped by the fact he is Brazilian. He was very gentle with Lucas. The possibility of living in Paris - a much more pleasant city than Manchester - also influenced his decision. But it was PSG's project that impressed Lucas."

http://www.sambafoot.com/en/news/342...er_united.html

Locke · 08-09-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by devo22

well, according to his sneaky agent, the deal with United was already agreed when PSG came along:

"Everything was agreed between São Paulo and Manchester United. The contract had been written and just needed to be signed. But then Leonardo [PSG Sporting Director] called me and asked to talk to Lucas. They talked. Leonardo was helped by the fact he is Brazilian. He was very gentle with Lucas. The possibility of living in Paris - a much more pleasant city than Manchester - also influenced his decision. But it was PSG's project that impressed Lucas."

http://www.sambafoot.com/en/news/342...er_united.html

Okay, thats a pissoff, but its clearly not Robinho's fault or anything like that. PSG just poached a player. Something that United should be well accustomed to.

cam_wmh · 08-09-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke

Okay, thats a pissoff, but its clearly not Robinho's fault or anything like that. PSG just poached a player. Something that United should be well accustomed to.

Lol fair play...

"“Nobody does this to me, nobody does this to Kenny Dalglish. You’re a wee ####### and you won’t get away with this.”

cam_wmh · 08-10-2012, 09:29 AM

Sounds like Van Persie is coming to United. I hate to be the pessimist, but the club is quite thin in centre back at the moment, and feel that's where their efforts should be prioritized.
Seeing Mancini get his panties in a knot, makes me smile though...
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...-admits-defeat

Carrick will be starting the season as centre back for United, and for England next Wednesday as the holder -- as Stuart Parker is hurt.

No Stevie G, JT or Roonie - but Fat Frank is back. Interesting to see how Walcott plays as a forward too.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3378/...out-as-hodgson

d_phaneuf · 08-10-2012, 09:31 AM

the timing of that friend;y next week is one of the worst I can remember

devo22 · 08-10-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

the timing of that friend;y next week is one of the worst i can remember

+1

cam_wmh · 08-10-2012, 09:37 AM

the FATAing Glazier's inflated share price, brought to reality.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...-value?cc=5901

Modric is asked by AVB to get ready to play with Spurs.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...-for-tottenham

d_phaneuf · 08-10-2012, 10:01 AM

looks like Joe Allen for 15m (not a typo) to Liverpool is going to happen

devo22 · 08-10-2012, 10:05 AM

this season could get ugly for Swansea. Coach Rodgers gone, loaned players Caulker and Sigurdsson gone, Allen probably gone to Liverpool, Sinclair probably gone to Man City ... de Guzman is a nice loan addition though, but he alone won't make a difference.

It's a shame, I really enjoyed Swansea last season.

d_phaneuf · 08-10-2012, 10:16 AM

Rodgers and Ledley King's knees really screwed them over

If Rodgers stays than Gylfi and Allen are still there, and if King hadn't retired the plan was to give Caulker another year on loan

cam_wmh · 08-10-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by devo22

this season could get ugly for Swansea. Coach Rodgers gone, loaned players Caulker and Sigurdsson gone, Allen probably gone to Liverpool, Sinclair probably gone to Man City ... de Guzman is a nice loan addition though, but he alone won't make a difference.

It's a shame, I really enjoyed Swansea last season.

Yep, they were a treat the last year. Would take points from the big clubs with regularity, and they still have one of the best holding midfielders in the prem.

Nuje · 08-11-2012, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by devo22

well, according to his sneaky agent, the deal with United was already agreed when PSG came along:

"Everything was agreed between São Paulo and Manchester United. The contract had been written and just needed to be signed. But then Leonardo [PSG Sporting Director] called me and asked to talk to Lucas. They talked. Leonardo was helped by the fact he is Brazilian. He was very gentle with Lucas. The possibility of living in Paris - a much more pleasant city than Manchester - also influenced his decision. But it was PSG's project that impressed Lucas."

http://www.sambafoot.com/en/news/342...er_united.html

Isn't that what happened with the Oilers and Michael Nylander? Minus the embarrassing announcement that he's already signed....same thing! Both contracts were signed waiting for a signature that never came through. Whatever. The fact that you label the agent sneaky...well he's an agent, and that's his job. Also, PSG with their current money are pretty well guaranteed titles, so it makes sense.

cam_wmh · 08-11-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuje

Isn't that what happened with the Oilers and Michael Nylander? Minus the embarrassing announcement that he's already signed....same thing! Both contracts were signed waiting for a signature that never came through. Whatever. The fact that you label the agent sneaky...well he's an agent, and that's his job. Also, PSG with their current money are pretty well guaranteed titles, so it makes sense.

Nylanders wife wouldn't move to Edmonton.