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Old 07-27-2012, 06:53 PM   #181
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You guys know that like 50% of Americans don't support gay marriage, right?

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And your point is?

Anyway, support *for* equality has been steadily rising for the most part over the years.
My point is that everyone is acting like it is this huge embarrassing controversy, yet Tim Thomas' views on the issue fall in line with half of the population of the country. This is hardly a story. God forbid you post personal opinions on your personal Facebook page that aren't politically correct according to what the liberal media is ramming down our throats.

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My point is that everyone is acting like it is this huge embarrassing controversy, yet Tim Thomas' views on the issue fall in line with half of the population of the country. This is hardly a story. God forbid you post personal opinions on your personal Facebook page that aren't politically correct according to what the liberal media is ramming down our throats.
Lol...what? What exactly is the liberal media ramming down your throat?
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:46 PM   #184
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Lol...what? What exactly is the liberal media ramming down your throat?
It's hilarious that people feel we should all vote on a human rights issue, and continue to focus on it. Not to generalize, but how many praise the constitution yet want to infringe on the rights of people getting married in an institutional manner? Keep religion and politics seperate, (should be) end of story.
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Actually equality is something formed from within oneself. President Lincoln freed the black slaves back in the 19th century. It took Martin Luther King in the late 20th century to show them that they needed to claim that equality for themselves. Hopefully early in the 21st century more of them will figure out that they must claim that American dream of prosperity for themselves. The Democrats can't provide them with prosperity by taxing the rich. That is just their con.

Homosexuals have equal protection under the law. That doesn't entitle them to automatic inclusion in every program, entitlement, exemption, ect. the government provides its citizens. They like everyone else they must meet the criteria. Like everyone else all programs don't apply to them. In most of the 50 states marriage doesn't apply to them.
Seriously? Racism was the Black people's fault? That is extremely ignorant, maybe racist?
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:57 PM   #186
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He's scientology crazy
Is he really one of those? whats with celebrities and their ######ed ways of supporting what could be called a cult.
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:02 PM   #187
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My point is that everyone is acting like it is this huge embarrassing controversy, yet Tim Thomas' views on the issue fall in line with half of the population of the country. This is hardly a story. God forbid you post personal opinions on your personal Facebook page that aren't politically correct according to what the liberal media is ramming down our throats.
It is an embarrassing controversy. The fact that 50% of Americans (and let's not forget that not very long ago it was 50% of Canadians as well) also support absurd and unjustifiable inequality just happens to be an even bigger, even more embarrassing controversy.
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:26 PM   #188
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My point is that everyone is acting like it is this huge embarrassing controversy, yet Tim Thomas' views on the issue fall in line with half of the population of the country. This is hardly a story.
History fairly judges Ty Cobb as a bigot even though his racist views were prevalent in the 1920s when he played for the Detroit Tigers. The fact that Tim Thomas is not alone in embarrassing himself does not make his stance any less embarrassing, and I'm confident that the vast majority of people will see it that way in 20 years, if they remember Tim Thomas at all by that time.
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Gay guy and his pre-op trans-sexual friend?
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Gay guy and his pre-op trans-sexual friend?
I just hope that they aren't married.
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I know it's rumoured to be 7uongo, but what are the odds it is actually him? Some of his tweets are quite out there, which leads me to believe yes, but others seem way too much like a parody account. I'm still on the fence about it.
It is Luongo and it is pure awesome.
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Would someone close this thread? At least on other forums i've been on I know talks like these are frowned upon and I know the author of the thread didn't intend for everyone to get into a religious and sexual debate but I've got half the mind to rant.. and you don't want that.
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I don't follow. What's wrong with the discussion?

Regarding the situation, as someone who may or may not be gay, I disagree with this guy's opinion, and probably wouldn't go to this place (although this story has gotten good publicity for me...I never heard of the place before this). However, with that being said, I'm not sure that cities should be banning him from opening shop in different places. Obviously nobody has a RIGHT to open a shop in a city, however, if people are truly as disgusted with what he said as they seem to be, then I assume he would open up shop in Chicago and Boston and his stores would flop. Might as well let the public decide if they want to be supporting him or not.

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Would someone close this thread? At least on other forums i've been on I know talks like these are frowned upon and I know the author of the thread didn't intend for everyone to get into a religious and sexual debate but I've got half the mind to rant.. and you don't want that.
I don't understand. Why would these sorts of discussions be frowned upon? These sorts of discussions are at the heart of our political and social discourse. It is through these sorts of discussions that we advance as a community and society.
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Would someone close this thread? At least on other forums i've been on I know talks like these are frowned upon and I know the author of the thread didn't intend for everyone to get into a religious and sexual debate but I've got half the mind to rant.. and you don't want that.
What an odd request, honestly. especially considering that to this point the discussion has been very cordial and I think quite respectful with regards to a highly sensitive and contentious issue. If you want to rant, then go right ahead. most of us here are grown ups, and I for one am not about to allow my feelings to be hurt by an opposing viewpoint.

I hope that you can understand and appreciate where I am coming from: As a professionally trained biblical scholar I do feel compelled from time to time to teach and to correct others about the enormous amount of confusion and misunderstanding about the biblical text, which invariably is bound to enter into these sorts of conversations. It's nothing personal, but for those who choose to marshal "scripture" in support of their views, I don't believe that it is inappropriate for me to expect that they clearly understand the texts that they invoke as authoritative.
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Would someone close this thread? At least on other forums i've been on I know talks like these are frowned upon and I know the author of the thread didn't intend for everyone to get into a religious and sexual debate but I've got half the mind to rant.. and you don't want that.
Those other forums are a bunch of pussies. Really.
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Poke fun if you want to. You, sir, have obviously never been hit with a donut.
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I also heard Tim Thomas is against cats and dogs getting married.

What at total jerk.
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