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Old 07-02-2012, 02:25 PM   #201
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How can people be comparing Hudler to Leino?

Hudler has a track record of 4 good seasons in the nhl. Leino had one good year.
"4 good seasons" may be a bit of a stretch? Unless you consider 13g, 42pts and 10g, 37 pts good "seasons"? I'd say 20/50 would be a better representation of "good" for players looked upon for offensive production which closes the gap to 2:1 for Hudler.

I hope Hudler proves me wrong - it was just my first reaction to the announcement.... and maybe somewhat influenced by the couple of years they were both on the Wings roster and largely interchangable as a 2nd/3rd line winger.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:25 PM   #202
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People complaining about the size of our forward group?

Bouma, Jones, Jackman, Comeau, Glencross and even Iggy?

That's half the forward group right there, and none of those guys are shrinking violets, and can play a physical brand when called upon.

Hudler, Tanguay, Cammalleri, Baertschi, Cervenka and Stempniak.

That's likely the other half, and that group has skill to burn IMO.

Sounds like a GOOD mix to me.
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Flames official release 4yrs 4mil per

http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?...id=DL|CGY|home
The Flames have him listed as a center.
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This top 6 is going to get destroyed by LA's forwards.
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I have no doubt that Hartley is sitting in the war room giving his thoughts as well. It's almost like they're asking him what he needs and they're out there getting it. I like this.
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This top 6 is going to get destroyed by LA's forwards.
Can't be any worse. Our top 6 were destroyed last year by LA with Jokinen skating about 2 mph.
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Avs pay 29 y/o Paranteau 4m x 4yr and it's a great signing. Flames sign 28 y/o, more proven, Hudler for 4m x 4yr - and it's moronic.

People sure are silly.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:29 PM   #208
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That Kev guy is probably loving this right now.
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This top 6 is going to get destroyed by LA's forwards.
People complain about a lack of skill and speed, so Feaster adds some.

Now people complain about a lack of size.

The Flames went 2-2 and LA last season. They weren't dominated.
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Trades must be coming. Our top 6 is now more like a top 7. Too many guys promised top 6 roles, like Glencross, Cervanka, Baertschi etc and now Hudler obviously. Even guys like Stempniak, Comeau and Backlund who aren't being used to the best of their ability in a bottom 6 role.
I think your right, a trade must be in the works. However, top 6 mintues should be earned.

Likely going to see something like this in the fall.

Alex Tanguay / Mike Cammalleri / Jarome Iginla
Curtis Glencross / Roman Cervenka / Jiri Hudler
Sven Baertschi / Mikael Backlund / Lee Stempniak

Blake Comeau / Blair Jones / Tim Jackman


Extras -
Matt Stajan & Lance Bouma
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This top 6 is going to get destroyed by LA's forwards.

Gio will have something to say about that.

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Old 07-02-2012, 02:30 PM   #212
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I like the Blackhawks championship model of 2010. Puck control, fast and skilled. Covering all of the ice.
Me too, only that team was dismantled quicker than any other cup winner since the lockout, I think. I still believe that the best model is Detroit.
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Agreed.

This is no longer a game of size and toughness.

It's a game of skill and ice surface coverage.
My 5 guys must cover the ice faster than your 5 guys.

Flames need backcheckers! Something that has been lacking for years.
Yeah, I didn't see any size or toughness in Carter, Penner, Kopitar, Brown, Stoll, Greene, Doughty, Mitchell, Martinez throughout the playoffs. LA media guide needs to be audited, eh?
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People complaining about the size of our forward group?

Bouma, Jones, Jackman, Comeau, Glencross and even Iggy?

That's half the forward group right there, and none of those guys are shrinking violets, and can play a physical brand when called upon.

Hudler, Tanguay, Cammalleri, Baertschi, Cervenka and Stempniak.

That's likely the other half, and that group has skill to burn IMO.

Sounds like a GOOD mix to me.
I think having three lines each with a sub 6 foot player runs a serious risk of being plain outmuscled on the boards with little ability to change up mid game if they are.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:31 PM   #215
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I think your right, a trade must be in the works. However, top 6 mintues should be earned.

Likely going to see something like this in the fall.

Alex Tanguay / Mike Cammalleri / Jarome Iginla
Curtis Glencross / Roman Cervenka / Jiri Hudler
Sven Baertschi / Mikael Backlund / Lee Stempniak

Blake Comeau / Blair Jones / Tim Jackman


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Matt Stajan & Lance Bouma
I really can't see the flames putting cammalleri at center now. Sure he can play it but he's not a better option then Hudler.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:32 PM   #216
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I really can't see the flames putting cammalleri at center now. Sure he can play it but he's not a better option then Hudler.
I am 100% against moving Cammalleri to center, but he is an infinitely better option at center than Hudler.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:33 PM   #217
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Huh? That would be dumb. Hudler would be a GREAT mentor for Backlund. Nemisz was great in his callup. Did Ashawx hack your account or something?
Where does Backlund even fit in?

Forwards ahead of him are:
Iginla
Cammy
Glencross
Tanguay
Hudler
Sven
Czervenka
Stempniak

That makes him forward #9 at best.

Jones, Bouwma, and Jackman will be line #4.

That leaves Horak, Backlund, Comeau, Nemisz, etc.... For that last spot. Something does not add up.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:35 PM   #218
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I really can't see the flames putting cammalleri at center now. Sure he can play it but he's not a better option then Hudler.
I disagree. Cammalleri would be a better choice than Hudler. Besides, Feaster said if they can't add a legit top-2 center, then Cammalleri would play C.

Regardless, we've still got a whole summer for more moves. I don't think they're finished yet.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:36 PM   #219
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Great signing! We made the TSN headline!

I hope this makes the team more entertaining, which is good for STH.

I can accept failure (in a way), but I can't accept boring hockey.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:36 PM   #220
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Where does Backlund even fit in?

Forwards ahead of him are:
Iginla
Cammy
Glencross
Tanguay
Hudler
Sven
Czervenka
Stempniak

That makes him forward #9 at best.

Jones, Bouwma, and Jackman will be line #4.

That leaves Horak, Backlund, Comeau, Nemisz, etc.... For that last spot. Something does not add up.

Uh, 3rd line?

Feaster has spoken highly of Backlund.

What you're saying isn't impossible, but it's far from the way you're trying to make it sound like a foregone conclusion.
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