[News] With the 21st overall pick Flames select C Mark Jankowski

[David Struch]

Originally Posted by Miniac

Weisbrod said "if Jankowski were two days older, he would have been in the top five next year."

Bob McKenzie said the same thing, and added... maybe even top three!

[Ashasx]

That top end in 2013 is ridiculous. Top 3 would probably be pushing it. But still...

All I can do is put my faith is Weisbrod. I've liked what he's said since he's been here, no reason to stop now.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Bob McKenzie said the same thing, and added... maybe even top three!

Where did he say that?

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Bob McKenzie said the same thing, and added... maybe even top three!

i think playing in the USHL (or wherever) is going to answer a lot of questions moving forward.

I take McKenzie's projection has the caveat of whether his game carries over against higher level of competition...no way the kid is top three if his stats are padded against canadian high school competition.

[bearcheeze]

I trust Weisbrod and his evaluation of talent. He sees something in this kid and whether it turns out good or bad you have to admire the Flames for at least trying for the home run and not trying for the safe third line checker role (like usual) which can usually easily be had via free agency.

For once in a long time I feel excited for the Flames future especially with the last two drafts.

[bearcheeze]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Bob McKenzie said the same thing, and added... maybe even top three!

How can someone even say that when he hasn't even played a single game in college?

Love the pick, but that's a ridiculous thing to say.

[David Struch]

Originally Posted by bearcheeze

How can someone even say that when he hasn't even played a single game in college?

Love the pick, but that's a ridiculous thing to say.

Listen to the Weisbrod interview, "skill is off the charts, so talented, so talented, really really special"

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Listen to the Weisbrod interview, "skill is off the charts, so talented, so talented, really really special"

well, the guy did draft him, so obviously the staff is going to say that no?

if they really thought that, they really rolled the dice on dropping to 21st, knowing that other teams scouted him to. Clearly, no one picking before Calgary saw the same thing Calgary did.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

well, the guy did draft him, so obviously the staff is going to say that no?

if they really thought that, they really rolled the dice on dropping to 21st, knowing that other teams scouted him to. Clearly, no one picking before Calgary saw the same thing Calgary did.

Or...
They really like the players the picked
Or...
They werent willing to take the risk of a guy just heading to the USHL.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Miniac

Weisbrod said "if Jankowski were two days older, he would have been in the top five next year." (~ 2:10)

Although, it should be, if he was two days younger.

[Miniac]

Originally Posted by getbak

Although, it should be, if he was two days younger.

Haha ya your right.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Or...
They really like the players the picked
Or...
They werent willing to take the risk of a guy just heading to the USHL.

well, if Weisbrod wasn't singing this kid's praises, it would be alarming to say the least...it's akin to having your grandparents judging their grand daughters beauty contest...guess who's going to come in first.

no one is going to convince the other side (pro vs negative) about Jankowski until next year.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Kent says as much in his piece, but the NHLE only describes how a player's performance will IMMEDIATELY translate at the NHL level, and the Flames brass, scouts, and observers were all unanimous that Jankowski will not be ready for the NHL for at least another three years. Of course his equivalency will be very low, but that shouldn't be of much concern to anyone here, given that he was not drafted to fill an immediate role on the team. Precisely for that, it is somewhat silly and pointless to gauge the quality of this pick based on how he would perform in the NHL this season. Professional NHL scouts are experienced enough that they can readily detect high-end skill and vision, even for players who are playing to relatively much lower levels of competition. If Jankowski was a different kind of player, then I would be more concerned about his future long-term potential, but precisely because he is a playmaker and has been noted as an exceptional puck distributor, this is a skill that is entirely dependant upon his linemates's abilities to convert his plays. In other words, his vision and his ability to anticipate plays and place the puck will not suddenly diminish at a higher level of competition; certainly not to the degree like what we witnesses in Chuck Kobasew and Ryan Howse: two goal scorers who struggled to convert quality plays at a higher level.

I am calling you out on your run-on sentence sir

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

I am calling you out on your run-on sentence sir

Damn! Damn! DAMN!!

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

well, if Weisbrod wasn't singing this kid's praises, it would be alarming to say the least...it's akin to having your grandparents judging their grand daughters beauty contest...guess who's going to come in first...

But listen to the kinds of things that Weisbrod is praising, as well as his unusually high level of enthusiasm. When GM's and scouts "sell" the virtues of their draft picks, they tend to draw the most attention to their picks greatest attributes. In all that I have seen, heard, and read, Jankowski's skills, vision and hockey sense are consistently highly rated and very well thought of. You won't hear Canucks GM Mike Gillis rave about Brendan Gauce's offensive skills and calling them "off the charts" because, well...they aren't, and that is abundantly clear to everyone who watches him play on a regular basis. This is more than just a case of spinning their pick—although there is undoubtedly a good deal of spin involved. Every scouting report I have seen is extremely high on Jankowski's offensive skills, and that is what I think posters are most excited about.

[Mr.Coffee]

I like that the Flames had a strategy and stuck to it. Days leading up to the draft we knew that:

-they wanted to trust Weisbrod.
-they didn't think there was a huge discrepancy in pick value after say pick 5 or so (think I heard that on fan960).
-they were open to options on trading for picks
-they knew generally who they wanted

All of the above strategy got executed. Following sound strategy will end up being successful most times. Guys in Columbus / NYI don't appear to have much of a homogeneous strategy.

Edmonton's strategy is to suck ass. Glad ours seems to have everyone on board and that we're following it.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I like that the Flames had a strategy and stuck to it. Days leading up to the draft we knew that:

-they wanted to trust Weisbrod.
-they didn't think there was a huge discrepancy in pick value after say pick 5 or so (think I heard that on fan960).
-they were open to options on trading for picks
-they knew generally who they wanted

All of the above strategy got executed. Following sound strategy will end up being successful most times. Guys in Columbus / NYI don't appear to have much of a homogeneous strategy.

Edmonton's strategy is to suck ass. Glad ours seems to have everyone on board and that we're following it.

I think Edmonton also drafted some guy they think "can be the best player in the draft" too in the 3rd round. (NOTE: this is nothing against Jankowski... just a noteworthy tidbit)

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

I think Edmonton also drafted some guy they think "can be the best player in the draft" too in the 3rd round. (NOTE: this is nothing against Jankowski... just a noteworthy tidbit)

Kharia or Zharkov? And who said that? Just interested, that's all.

[Savvy27]

It was Zharkov, I think. Except I'm pretty sure he was saying that about himself.

[killer_carlson]

When was the last time we picked a home run or bust pick in the first round?

I seriously don't remember.