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Old 05-18-2012, 11:31 AM   #181
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Some other dirty tricks:

Send her some poetry in Spanish. You don't even have to know what it means, as long as she doesn't either. It just sounds romantic.

Spread a rumor about your impressive manhood. Curious women will want to investigate.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:33 AM   #182
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Also proper use of you're/your and their/they're/there can go a long way
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:38 AM   #183
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Oh god... don't even spend a second worrying about this stuff. The things I could go back and teach my 18 year old self...

It's funny, I'm sure you get lots of us older guys, but don't worry about it. When you're in your mid or late 20s, you'll look back and laugh at how much you stressed about this, and how everything just ends up working out.

I know hearing it when I was 18 didn't convince me much or put me at ease, but trust me, 18 year old you is no where near as confident and comfortable as 25 year old you will be, and the girls can tell and it'll all come together.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:40 AM   #184
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Be a good dresser - I don't know about this one. I guess if you're looking for a little tail, that could help - but if you're looking to date someone - do you really want to attract the type of woman who is interested in you for your clothes?
It's about the first impression. Extremely important, even if on a subconscious level. The same reason why girls wear push up bras, makeup, get tans, etc... It's not necessarily about being interested in someone for their clothes. It's about creating that level of excitement when you first meet someone.

If you're picking women up in public places, you should always put your best self forward as to not scare any of them off. None of the people in the bar know you or what kind of a person you are. They can all see whether you are put together or not though. Many women judge a man well before he opens his mouth. Why create that extra hurdle before you even talk to her.

I'm not saying that you need to wear a sport coat (I find that look super cheesy, and noone born after 1965 should wear a sportcoat ever), but a great fitting pair of jeans and a properly fitted shirt, even if a t-shirt, goes a long way. Plus good shoes help a lot. Women always seem to notice cool shoes. They don't have to be expensive Italian made dress shoes, but something stylish.
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Haha! I did see that too - thought I corrected it, but apparently not! Dammit!
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:49 AM   #186
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Back to the dressing thing, for some people its a manner of confidence building.

If you don't have a lot of confidence and you dress poorly then woman who have a radar about these things will look at you as a schub that dresses like a slob, so the rejection thing is magnified 10x

Dressing well, or to impress will get you a lot of forgiveness points if you act like a dork.

First impression of dress, woman don't notice a shirt or tie, or a jacket, they notice shoes and the condition of the shoes.

Its weird.
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:06 PM   #187
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Don't forget to check your Junk E-Mail folder. I just received this enticing offer!

Hi, I am a luxurious brunette gal with second size of breasts and I am looking for some sweet-looking smart pal to have sex. I work as financier in one small company. Not very dumb but not smarty-pants at all! I loved your photos very much and that’s why I decided to write this male. Wanna know me better? Then I am waiting for your answer. Please, do not be shy but just give me an answer and who knows maybe we will find each other and fall in love.
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I know there are a lot of posts here dictating to dress well. This is good advice if you were 28, 25, maybe even 23, but at your age unless you are trying to date older women, it isn't really a big deal. Just don't try and be who you aren't. When I turned 18, I was still a virgin (I was a real late bloomer grew six inches and lost 35 pds my freshman year of college). Just don't stress about this stuff, it will happen. Don't try and force anything. Don't try to be anything you are not. Be confident. It might not happen that quickly for you, but it's not a big deal.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:12 AM   #189
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Stop focusing on being athletic, ok sorry don't stop focusing, but also focus on beach muscles.

Girls like abs and arms, they don't care how fast you can run.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:23 AM   #190
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Stop focusing on being athletic, ok sorry don't stop focusing, but also focus on beach muscles.

Girls like abs and arms, they don't care how fast you can run.
Generally if you are athletic and run fast you have good abs. To have a true six pack you need to combine stomach exercises with lots of cardio, unless you want to be a huge muscley guy, but if that's what you mean i disagree. I don't know many girls that are into extremely muscular men.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:56 AM   #191
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Generally if you are athletic and run fast you have good abs. To have a true six pack you need to combine stomach exercises with lots of cardio, unless you want to be a huge muscley guy, but if that's what you mean i disagree. I don't know many girls that are into extremely muscular men.
I don't really understand where your point disagrees with mine.
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Women can't have a conversation with muscles. Working towards a healthy life style is great, but most women want someone who can make them laugh uncontrollably. Getting beach muscles is a very superficial way to make a connection IMO.
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I don't really understand where your point disagrees with mine.
If you are an athlete you generally have those cuts that women are attracted to and don't need to focus on muscles.
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Hi, I am a luxurious brunette gal with second size of breasts and I am looking for some sweet-looking smart pal to have sex. I work as financier in one small company. Not very dumb but not smarty-pants at all! I loved your photos very much and that’s why I decided to write this male. Wanna know me better? Then I am waiting for your answer. Please, do not be shy but just give me an answer and who knows maybe we will find each other and fall in love.
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Here's a few simple things you can do to help yourself be more confident and be yourself in a good way.

1) Dress the way you think looks good, all the time.

It's not as important what you wear, it's important you feel that what you wear looks good on you. Those female friends and good salespeople can help you get started if you feel insecure. Just don't let them pick anything for you that you don't like. (Or maybe one or two things, you might get accustomed to them.)

The important thing is, wear good clothes all the time. This is a great confidence builder and it helps you improve your image. And be detailed. If you feel that belt of yours is too worn out and dumb, get a new one. Throw out socks that you wouldn't want anyone to see, even if they would propably never notice. The point is that every single item on you should be something that makes you go "that's fine". Even if it doesn't make you confident, it helps you relax, and that's a great starting point.

Remember, people don't only look at you in parties/clubs. People build their views on not just the moment they meet them but all the time. Especially if you have plenty of women who have "friend zoned" you, dressing nice all the time propably helps.

Also, don't worry too much about wearing stuff that "no-one wears". Women don't necessarily want men to dress "well" anyway. They are looking for personality and confidence, men who look like they can take care of themselves. If you think that weird shirt is cool, go ahead and wear it. Get a second opinion if you feel insecure, but other than that it's better to be a personality.

2) Be clean, neat and prepared, all the time.

Women care a lot about neat and clean, no matter their other preferences. Make sure your fingernails are presentable and don't have dirt under them. (To say this point blank: If you get laid, those things might go inside her. She will care what they look like.)

Also keep your place neat and clean all the time, and always have a well-stocked liquor cabinet and some snacks. And always, always have condoms on you.

Fortune favours those who are prepared. Also, when "being prepared" is your natural state of being, you stop paying attention to it yourself. You wear your nice clothes like it's nothing, you can invite people over because you can just do it at any time without thinking about it and so forth.

3) Stop looking for "cute" or "pretty", look for "attractive" or "interesting". There are different things that are appealing to people. If you look for "beauty", you get into the ad zone. Everybody tends to see the same people as beautiful because of the culture that surrounds us. But "interesting" and "attractive" are way more complicated. If you look for those qualities, you start noticing girls that others might not be interested in. This helps your cause.

Also, everyone likes a genuine compliment, and if you can say "I don't know, there was just something attractive/interesting about you" with total sincerity, you propably scored like a thousands points. (It's much easier to sound sincere if you are sincere.)

4) Acclimatize yourself.

The one big problem most people have is that they tend to go dumb when around attractive members of the opposite sex. They start thinking about impressing them and make fools of themselves. Also thinking about stuff like "that girl is attractive, should I make a move" is a great way of messing up your head.

Start looking around you all the time, looking for women/girls that attract you. Whether it'a grocery cashier, someone at cafe where you could sit on the same table or someone in a subway, if there's a chance to go next to her, do that. Don't be creepy though. There's (propably) no point in trying to make conversation or any way impress that person, or even to let her know you're there in any special way. Just interact with her the way you would with any other person in that situation, fully aware of the fact that you are there because she is (somewhat attractive). What you are doing is getting used to dealing with and being around attractive women. They don't even have to be hugely attractive, just pick the one that's more attractive than the others when ever possible.

Not only will you start taking attractive women as something that's naturally around you (because let's face it, world is filled with attractive women), you learn to look at them without staring. (Women like being looked at but hate being stared.) It will take a while, but after a few months you will be much more relaxed when talking to attractive women. At that point you can "just be you" which is the advice you always hear. (Be "the good you" though. If you don't try to present your good side, you won't look like you're interested.)

5) Stop looking at porn and masturbate less.

Masturbating is fun, but if you need porn to get off, then you don't really need to get off.

If you're looking to hook up with a real women, there are several ways in which porn can harm your ability to do so. (I'm not saying that it will, but because it can do so, and because nobody really needs porn, it's better to bet on the safe side and just get off porn for a while.)

First off, being horny boosts your adrenaline levels. This boosts your confidences and helps you take the risks needed to reach your goal of hooking up with someone. Being horny, you will naturally feel more more proactive. If you masturbate too much, you are less likely to take initiative, and our cultural demands initiative from men 99% of the time.

Second, too much porn can seriously mess up with your ability to feel affection and even attraction. There's quite hard scientific data on this. (Although to be fair, it's not just porn. Pretty much anything consumed in addiction-level amounts can do the same. So if you're a big game, consider taking a break from that too. But there's strong reason to believe porn is a bit of a special case.)

Mutual attraction and affection is very much a feedback-loop. If you are attracted to more people, more people will be attracted to you. Humans are essentially hardwired that way.

I have no idea where you're at with your porn levels, but again bet on the safe side. If there's even a small chance of porn affecting your ability of hooking up with women, let go of porn.

(Here's one article about the subject. It's more about the way it affects long-term relationships, but it's food for thought for everyone out there. http://goodmenproject.com/health/how...your-marriage/ )

(Although if you feel like your balls will explode it's propably best to let a load off.)
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Also, start a new hobby. Doesn't matter what, as long as it's something you do face to face, there are women of approriate age and it actually interests you somewhat.

Singing (choruses) or dancing (some kind of couple dancing is obviously best) are very good choices. There's a thousand different kinds, and both tend to have a chronic shortage of men.

Women love to dance, and they love it when they have men who will dance with them. You don't even have to be good, so this is a much faster route than learning to play the guitar.

Generally speaking, the more people you get to know, the better your chance of meeting someone.
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:37 AM   #198
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Ok, so an update.
I took in a lot of what you guys said, and I went on an online dating site here in Aus.
I met this girl, and just had an amazing first date with her.
The biggest things were just believing in myself, and letting myself know that I can act like myself, and it's ok.


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Probably not a great idea to post a giant picture of a girl on an internet forum after your first date. Unless of course you're going for the 'wow, he's creepy' vibe.
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Well she is pretty cute.
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