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Old 04-04-2012, 11:44 PM   #1161
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The design part I agree with, but why not use new fabrics? I've worn old ####ty jerseys and new pro combat style jerseys and the difference in terms of how it feels to play in is incredible.
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:24 AM   #1162
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Rut roh!

Gregg Williams recorded telling players to injure, focus on existing injuries before the 49ers playoff game:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu..._bounty_040412

Not good for Payton/Loomis on suspension appeal day.
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:31 AM   #1163
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Rut roh!

Gregg Williams recorded telling players to injure, focus on existing injuries before the 49ers playoff game:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu..._bounty_040412

Not good for Payton/Loomis on suspension appeal day.
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:41 AM   #1164
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I'll be shocked if Gregg Williams makes it back to the NFL.
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:43 AM   #1165
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There is no place for #### like that in sport anymore.

With the league cracking down on headshots and concussion problems, you are telling your players to go out there and hit guys in the head.

It is one thing to tell your guys to play hard, and finish every hit no matter the consquences, but to go out there and not only tell them but reward them for injuring guys in bushleague.

I have lost all respect I earned for that organization the last couple years. I actually feel bad for Drew Brees because I doubt other defenses will forget what the Saints were doing to go after their QBs.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:13 AM   #1166
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Rut roh!

Gregg Williams recorded telling players to injure, focus on existing injuries before the 49ers playoff game:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu..._bounty_040412

Not good for Payton/Loomis on suspension appeal day.
Ever since this story broke there have been a lot of people re-examining the Saints games. Even going back to preseason, the 49ers were shocked with how often the Saints blitzed them in the first pre-season game. The 49ers were embarrassed but it provided pretty good motivation in that playoff game.

The only things that really shock me is how explicit Williams was about wanting to take out Crabtree's ACL or target Kyle Williams head. It is one thing to exhort your players to hit opponenets into next week, it is something else to outright aim for injuries.
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Tim Hasselbeck is tweeting that pointing out injuries on the other team is par for the course in team meetings. That comes as no surprise to me, and shouldn't to anyone that follows the sport. It's the blatant and overzealous nature of Williams focusing on them as points of emphasis that is the problem. Especially when the team had been told that they were under investigation for the SECOND time. It's ridiculous!

As for how the other players will react to the Saints, I don't think it will make much of a difference. From what I've heard in interviews, it seems like they have some sympathy from many players.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:50 AM   #1168
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I want the NFL to investigate other teams for this. There is NO WAY the saints were the only team.

Football player are taught to hit to hurt. Be the hammer, not the nail. It's safer for you that way. The barbarian attitude had always been a part of the game and always should be. But deliberately trying to injure opponents is taking it too far
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I want the NFL to investigate other teams for this. There is NO WAY the saints were the only team.

Football player are taught to hit to hurt. Be the hammer, not the nail. It's safer for you that way. The barbarian attitude had always been a part of the game and always should be. But deliberately trying to injure opponents is taking it too far
I think you hit the nail on the head there, you hit to hurt, you don't hit to injure.
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I wouldn't mind if the Flames took out some Canucks tonight.
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:10 AM   #1171
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From Ray Ratto (yes, the guy who got into it with Remenda)
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But for those of you who believe in tradition,. Never fear. The bounty system will never go away. It’ll just become more surreptitious. It won’t be advertised. It’ll work just the way it always has, only on the down-low.

And that’s all the NFL really wanted here – for the Saints to shut up about it. But Gregg Williams couldn’t, and Sean Payton wouldn’t, and Loomis wasn’t going to buck his superiors by going to his other superior.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-s...66&feedID=2539

He actually starts off the article with some interesting speculation about what would have happened if the Saints had gone on to win the Superbowl. Total conjecture but something I hadn't considered.


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Tim Hasselbeck is tweeting that pointing out injuries on the other team is par for the course in team meetings. That comes as no surprise to me, and shouldn't to anyone that follows the sport. It's the blatant and overzealous nature of Williams focusing on them as points of emphasis that is the problem. Especially when the team had been told that they were under investigation for the SECOND time. It's ridiculous!

As for how the other players will react to the Saints, I don't think it will make much of a difference. From what I've heard in interviews, it seems like they have some sympathy from many players.
Agreed. At first I was actually pretty concerned about it, especially in terms of FA's. But after solid defensive UFA's like Lofton & Hawthorne signed in New Orleans (especially Lofton, coming over from the arch rivals), I'm not worried about that anymore. Clearly its not as big an issue with many NFL players (at least on D) as it is with NFL front office/media/fans.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:21 AM   #1173
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Aaron Wilson:

Ravens agreed to a five-year, $50 million contract extension with Lardarius Webb that includes a $10 million signing bonus.

Awesome news, best CB right now in the AFC not named Revis.
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Sean Pamphilon, the documentary filmmaker who released an audio recording calls Gregg Williams an arrogant coward.

http://theusof.com/2012/04/tru-dat-g...-pay-for-pain/
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:33 AM   #1175
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Tweet by Adam Schefter earlier today:
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Sources close to Saints said Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis directed Gregg Williams to ensure no inappropriate conduct would occur.
With the audio being released I believe it helps our case that Gregg was really a lone wolf on this one. Fits in with his stubborn personality.

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Joe Vitt's attorney, David Cornwell, said he is aware of Gregg Williams 49ers game comments. Said he was "rogue coach" about to be fired.
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David Cornwell said Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis told Gregg Williams to end bounty program when NFL advised team of investigation in Jan.

Also Gregg Williams was fired at the end of the season. He didn't just walk away from the team.

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Old 04-05-2012, 11:40 AM   #1176
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With the audio being released I believe it helps our case that Gregg was really a lone wolf on this one. Fits in with his stubborn personality.
Except for that little matter of Payton emailing Williams to put a bounty on Aaron Rodgers THIS year.
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Except for that little matter of Payton emailing Williams to put a bounty on Aaron Rodgers THIS year.
That's a load of horse crap. Already been refuted by the NFL its self.
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That's a load of horse crap. Already been refuted by the NFL its self.
You're right, but the email was sent to Payton, so he was aware of it.
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Ravens agreed to a five-year, $50 million contract extension with Lardarius Webb that includes a $10 million signing bonus.

Awesome news, best CB right now in the AFC not named Revis.
or Brandon Flowers or Champ Bailey or Jonathan Joseph....just sayin.
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or Brandon Flowers or Champ Bailey or Jonathan Joseph....just sayin.
Or Joe Haden.
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