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Old 02-28-2012, 04:42 PM   #41
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Try going without caffeine for a week and see what happens...
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:13 PM   #42
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Personally speaking here, there are days in the dead of winter where I get 20-30 minutes MAX of sunlight, and that's whatever filters through my car windows on my commute home from work.
Same here. In fact I probably get less. As a result I take about 5,000IU of vitamin D every day during the winter, and 3,000IU/day during the summer.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:16 PM   #43
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Regarding vitamin D,

I recently read that in the latitudes of Canada, you can stand outside naked all day everyday between the months of October and February and not get an ounce of vitamin D.

Everything I have read states that the full benefits of vitamin D are not completely understood and the recommended dosage is everything from 4-500 UI's to 1000-3000 UI's a day.

Also, Vitamin D isn't quite like Vitamin C where your body uses a certain amount and then pees out what you don't need. Whatever you body needs, it will use and the rest is stored in the liver.

I have also read that the body may not know how to metabolize Vitamin D effectively in pill form, so naturally occurring Vitamin D found in food is better than popping some pills.

I actually havent heard anything about Vitamin D deficiencies being exaggerated, everything I have heard and read is that the full benefits arent completely understood.
Well, because they're not understood, some people claim that dosing on vitamin D with vitamins or pills isn't necessary.

Its extremely hard to get enough vitamin D just through food alone. One glass of milk, which for the most part is fortified with extra vitamin D as well, has only 400IU last time I checked.

If you want to get 3-5,000 like I do, PER day, there is no other way to get it other than taking the pills.
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I was diagnosed as vitamin D deficient in my last medical check-up. Am I supposed to ignore the advice from medical professionals because some guys on an internet forum are arguing the merits of it or not?

I am usually the biggest skeptic in the room but if my doctor tells me that I am deficient in something, I'll try to take it (even though I agree that the bioavailability of it in pill form may be cause for some debate).

I'm not saying it's making me happier or anything. I noticed today though, that while sitting in class early before anybody got there to close them (because of glare, pussies!), I opened all the blinds so the sun was shining right in my face and I felt better than I had in weeks.
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Drink your water... at least 4L. Look up dehydration on google, it's like being sick 24/7. Only downside is you'll be going to the bathroom more often, and waking up in the middle of the night to go is annoying.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:31 PM   #47
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Have you been with un-clean women lately? Should maybe try that.

On the Vitamin D issue, I linked to this article purely for the title:

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Vitamin D Reduces Risk of Death
http://www.how-to-buy-health-insuran...es-risk-death/


I don't care what I take, I'm pretty sure my risk of death is pegged at 100%.

Truth be told though I did start taking vitamin D supplements lately and while it's entirely possible it's the placebo effect, I do feel better.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:33 PM   #48
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Regarding vitamin D,

I recently read that in the latitudes of Canada, you can stand outside naked all day everyday between the months of October and February and not get an ounce of vitamin D.

Everything I have read states that the full benefits of vitamin D are not completely understood and the recommended dosage is everything from 4-500 UI's to 1000-3000 UI's a day.

Also, Vitamin D isn't quite like Vitamin C where your body uses a certain amount and then pees out what you don't need. Whatever you body needs, it will use and the rest is stored in the liver.

I have also read that the body may not know how to metabolize Vitamin D effectively in pill form, so naturally occurring Vitamin D found in food is better than popping some pills.

I actually havent heard anything about Vitamin D deficiencies being exaggerated, everything I have heard and read is that the full benefits arent completely understood.
Ill just put this here for the scientists and most especially the biologists..

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The longer I exist, the more I realize that we don't know F ALL about our bodies and what we need and what makes us sick and what doesn't make us sick.
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Yeah, #### science and evidence, i feel like warm stones on my back cures cancer!
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Really? I find Flames zero effort+Rob Kerr+A horizontal position on my couch is the perfect recipe for nap time.
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If you aren't sleeping well that is prob the biggest issue.
You could try sleeping pills..dunno i don't and won't
stop the stims - coffee/sugar/caffeine/coke/hookers
as always eat well, exercise and pay the taxman
avoid flames hockey - actually that will help you sleep PVR games and watch them before bed
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My Doc says everyone in Calgary should be taking vitamin D. He either thinks it helps or he has a large amount of money invested in vitamins.
I say the same thing, and take it myself. Every day.
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I invented vitamin D. All you rubes are making me exorbitantly wealthy. Golden vitamin showers for everyone!
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Have you been with un-clean women lately? Should maybe try that.

On the Vitamin D issue, I linked to this article purely for the title:


http://www.how-to-buy-health-insuran...es-risk-death/


I don't care what I take, I'm pretty sure my risk of death is pegged at 100%.

Truth be told though I did start taking vitamin D supplements lately and while it's entirely possible it's the placebo effect, I do feel better.
I got laughed at on another thread for the same advice. Been three winters now on it. No more winter blues...
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Every morning when I wake up, I hop up and down 8 times, no more winter blues....
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Not sure what Vitamin D has to do with moods. It's more closely associated with healthy bones (Osteoporosis and Rickets) and it's added to our milk which is one of the only food products in Canada that is actually fortified. So ya, it's important.

Take some melatonin.
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YEAH, Take Vitamin D, no need to understand biology and how that dry pill is absorbed into your body...

Who cares if most of it is wasted and goes out your urine.

FACTS ARE USELESS.

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Not sure what Vitamin D has to do with moods. It's more closely associated with healthy bones (Osteoporosis and Rickets) and it's added to our milk which is one of the only food products in Canada that is actually fortified. So ya, it's important.

Take some melatonin.
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At the onset of treatment and after 1 month of therapy subjects were administered the Hamilton Depression scale, the SIGH-SAD, and the SAD-8 depression scale. All subjects also had serum levels of 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25-OH D) measured before and 1 week after intervention therapy. All subjects receiving vitamin D improved in all outcome measures.

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Old 02-28-2012, 09:27 PM   #60
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YEAH, Take Vitamin D, no need to understand biology and how that dry pill is absorbed into your body...

Who cares if most of it is wasted and goes out your urine.

FACTS ARE USELESS.

Not sure what you're ranting about. Studies show their may be a link between vitamin D and S.A.D., and that supplementation may help with other health problems as well.

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From: 'D' for depression: any role for vitamin D? 'Food for Thought' II. [Review] Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica. 124(4):243-9, 2011 Oct. Parker, G. Brotchie, H.

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Recent findings from a randomized trial suggest that high doses of supplemental vitamin D may improve mild depressive symptoms, but important questions persist concerning how vitamin D may affect monoamine function and hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis response to stress, whether vitamin D supplementation can improve mood in individuals with moderate-to-severe depression, and whether vitamin D sufficiency is protective against incident depression and recurrence.
From: Vitamin D and the occurrence of depression: causal association or circumstantial evidence?. [Review] [70 refs]. Nutrition Reviews. 67(8):481-92, 2009 Aug..Bertone-Johnson, Elizabeth R.

So you'd be right if you're alluding to evidence not being conclusive, but you seem to be discounting any evidence on the link?

Also, vitamin D3 is fat soluble. You don't just pee it out.
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