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Old 02-02-2012, 08:34 AM   #41
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For the record Bob Barker is vegan. He donates a lot of his time and energy to animal rights causes and that's why one of the Sea Shepard's ships is named for him. He pretty much paid for it. I don't know about 20 years from now people looking back at the rodeo with disgust, but in 200 years they will be.
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It should be pointed out that none of these girls are that good looking. Much better talent is available that week.
I'll admit at times, mostly drunken, I have a real desire to plow through that stereotypical slutty puffed up blonde type on the right.
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People put pets in cramped car carriers all the time and haul them around. People may not put an elastic around a cats balls, but do we do sometimes painful things to them for our enjoyment? Of course people do!
This is likely where such people are charged with cruelty to animals offences (under various pieces of provincial legislation.)
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I stand by my opinion that if you eat meat you don't get to pick and choose when animal rights matter (and yes, I eat a ton of meat).
I think that's going a bit far. I like my steaks but I'm not really cool with dog-fighting or poaching. I think a more apt comparison would be between the Stampede and bull-fighting.

The rodeo represents a bit of a crisis of conscious for me. I enjoy it and understand that it's part of our cultural heritage, but it does also seem unnecessary, cruel, and a tad barbaric.
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This is likely where such people are charged with cruelty to animals offences (under various pieces of provincial legislation.)
I wasn't really talking about abuse. Even regular acceptable actions.

It certainly isn't anywhere close to being black and white.
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Lol seriously?

Are you in the habit of putting an elastic on your cats balls and riding him around the living room.
I've been watching rodeo my whole life, I have never once seen a strap tied around an animal's balls. This is nothing but hyperbole put out by PETA and other animal welfare crazies who lack any knowledge of the subject. The flank strap goes across their stomach. It's not tied too tightly or they won't be able to kick, and the strap itself is made of nothing but cotton, so it does no harm.

Rodeo animals are VERY well taken care of. Stock contractors have sunk a TON of money into these animals. Mistreating them would be like buying a Maserati. But driving it in winter, storing it outside and never washing it. The accommodations these animals get compared to say a typical dairy farm cow are like staying at the Wynn compared to the Motel 6, especially at these big rodeos like the Stampede.

Here's a video interview with Temple Grandin; an animal welfare activist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin). She actually visited the stampede last year (not like some of the nuts who stand on MacLeod Trail and cluck about something they've never witnessed first-hand). Her points are well calculated.

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For the record Bob Barker is vegan. He donates a lot of his time and energy to animal rights causes and that's why one of the Sea Shepard's ships is named for him. He pretty much paid for it. I don't know about 20 years from now people looking back at the rodeo with disgust, but in 200 years they will be.
Well, the Stampede has been around a hundred years this year and rodeo events have been taking place for probably a few years before that.
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The solution - futuristic robotic rodeo animals.
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Bob Barker: "I've never been there, never read up on it, never taken the time to educate myself, but zealots like me say it is bad, so I think it is bad."

Gotta love a man who sexually harassed his employees trying to be the moral police.
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I would like to point out that most in the Animal Rights/Welfare community see Temple Grandin as someone who sold out her beliefs to the meat industry.
Why do they see it that way?

I always find Temple Grandin as an amazing breath of fresh air in these discussions.
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I would like to point out that most in the Animal Rights/Welfare community see Temple Grandin as someone who sold out her beliefs to the meat industry.
Yeah, 'Big Meat' is huge on lobbyists and bribing people to sell out their beliefs.
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Well, the Stampede has been around a hundred years this year and rodeo events have been taking place for probably a few years before that.
Yes and just a little over 100 years ago there was slavery in the US. People's attitudes toward animals have highly evolved in the last 100 years and will continue to do so in the future.
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Why do they see it that way?

I always find Temple Grandin as an amazing breath of fresh air in these discussions.
Mainly they believe that she should be fighting to end factory farming period not just modifying it.
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Mainly they believe that she should be fighting to end factory farming period not just modifying it.
Oh, that's all?

Eff them then.
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Yeah, 'Big Meat' is huge on lobbyists and bribing people to sell out their beliefs.
You don't think the meat industry spends mucho dinero on lobbyists? We can end the discussion right here because obviously you have no idea what you are talking about.
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I've been watching rodeo my whole life, I have never once seen a strap tied around an animal's balls. This is nothing but hyperbole put out by PETA and other animal welfare crazies who lack any knowledge of the subject. The flank strap goes across their stomach. It's not tied too tightly or they won't be able to kick, and the strap itself is made of nothing but cotton, so it does no harm.

Rodeo animals are VERY well taken care of. Stock contractors have sunk a TON of money into these animals. Mistreating them would be like buying a Maserati. But driving it in winter, storing it outside and never washing it. The accommodations these animals get compared to say a typical dairy farm cow are like staying at the Wynn compared to the Motel 6, especially at these big rodeos like the Stampede.

Here's a video interview with Temple Grandin; an animal welfare activist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin). She actually visited the stampede last year (not like some of the nuts who stand on MacLeod Trail and cluck about something they've never witnessed first-hand). Her points are well calculated.
Just to be clear...

You realize I was making a joke right? To compare a domestic cat to a rodeo animal is silly.

Good info though.
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