Final Exams

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by SHOGUN

That's ****ed up.

At least it gives me an excuse to drink.

[killer_carlson]

Peter Tracey was one of my favorite professors in university. I nominated him in at least two years for a Student's Union Teaching Award He's fantastic and actually gives a damn about his students.

Don't be afraid to visit him for his office hours (during the semester is better). If you need to break the ice, ask him to work a pro wrestling aspect to one of his examples.

[3 Justin 3]

Originally Posted by MyFlamesFirst

MGMT 2030 (Organizational Behavior) MGMT 2060( Intro Information tech) MGMT 2100(Financial accounting) Stat 2780

Expecting a B pretty well across the board. Maybe an A in 2030. Its the group projects all due at the end of the week thats killing me now. I love it when your group decides to do nothing...

haha, Organizational Behavior, I have that class. Bunch of BS. Probably the stupidest class I've taken so far. Well that and my teacher is awful.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Locke

Here you go boys.

One of my group members on my final assignment spent half the time yesterday figuring out what the minimum grade he needed to get on his final essay to pass.

The best part is he has just got back his previous essay, where he got an F, attempting exactly the same thing.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan

Just wrote a masher of an Advanced Corporate Finance exam at the UofA. I still can't figure out why the prof insists on having 10 possible answers for each multiple choice question set up like this:

a) Possible Answer
b) Possible Answer
c) Possible Answer
d) Possible Answer
e) some combination of a,b,c,d
f) some combination of a,b,c,d
g) some combination of a,b,c,d
h) some combination of a,b,c,d
i) all of the above
j) none of the above.

Hurray for the low (30%) average.

I can't understand why, apart from professor laziness, any exam has multiple choice questions on it.

[Locke]

I forgot about the inherent panic around exam time, heres some more:

Its not actually NSFW, its just a huge image.

NSFW!

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Makarov

I can't understand why, apart from professor laziness, any exam has multiple choice questions on it.

Actually multiple choice can sometimes be a tougher exam for Finance subject matters. The key to make the exam tough is for the wrong choices make them numerically add up to what the test taker would have arrived to had he/she made a tiny error or an common erronous assumption in their calculations.

It's also highly effective at testing multiple components of a concept by introducing the following answer template:

A) i, ii, and, iv
B) ii, iii, and iv
C) i, iii, and iv
D) i, ii, and iii
E) Only ii, and iii

It really avoids the problem of having a short answer test where test takers can BS their way into 1/2 marks or where answers are not consistantly marked across the entire class.

Of course this wouldn't be appropriate for a law exam, but the exam the poster was referring to was not a law exam.

[Makarov]

^ Fair enough, and I admit that I have a bias due to my social science/legal education background. It just seems to me that it is less helpful (from a learning standpoint) to be equally penalized for "making a tiny error" and leaving the question entirely blank (although I suppose in the real world a tiny error can sometimes even be more damaging than doing nothing at all.)

In any event, I'm just glad I don't have to write any more exams. I do miss post-exam drinking though.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Makarov

^ Fair enough, and I admit that I have a bias due to my social science/legal education background. It just seems to me that it is less helpful (from a learning standpoint) to be equally penalized for "making a tiny error" and leaving the question entirely blank (although I suppose in the real world a tiny error can sometimes even be more damaging than doing nothing at all.)

In any event, I'm just glad I don't have to write any more exams. I do miss post-exam drinking though.

The first beer after exams tastes like it was brewed in gold.

[VladtheImpaler]

I have a poker exam in Vegas Dec. 17-21. I am getting really jittery...

[Lil Pedro]

This is my last semester at the University of Lethbridge, I can see light at the end of the tunnel. Got two take home finals, a webct test due by the 16th and final exams on the 15th and 16th. Gonna be a long week next week

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

Actually multiple choice can sometimes be a tougher exam for Finance subject matters. The key to make the exam tough is for the wrong choices make them numerically add up to what the test taker would have arrived to had he/she made a tiny error or an common erronous assumption in their calculations.

It's also highly effective at testing multiple components of a concept by introducing the following answer template:

A) i, ii, and, iv
B) ii, iii, and iv
C) i, iii, and iv
D) i, ii, and iii
E) Only ii, and iii

It really avoids the problem of having a short answer test where test takers can BS their way into 1/2 marks or where answers are not consistantly marked across the entire class.

Of course this wouldn't be appropriate for a law exam, but the exam the poster was referring to was not a law exam.

I agree with the first point, but this wasn't a numbers test at all. Completely theory.

My problem with it is that when you have a slide in your notes with the ownership structures of 50 countries larger companies and all you really mention in class on it is that you can see some are more owned by families, governments, pension funds etc, and then go ask the following question:

Which of the following countries large companies are primarily owned by wealthy families:

a)Agrentina
b)Norway
c)Hong Kong
d)Sweden
e)All except a
f)All except b
g)All except c
h)All except d
i)All of the above
j)None of the above.

Thankfully I knew the answer was f) but only because i had been talking to a buddy about the Norway pension fund a couple weeks ago. It was never even mentioned in class.

Trivial #### like that and what analysis techniques did so and so use in his 70 page paper on such and such are not good questions.

[anyonebutedmonton]

Originally Posted by Mtt48

You at UofC? If so, if you need CANs or anything let me know. I have sweet shizzle for everything first year.

I tried to set a record this morning in Constitutional for most CANS brought into the exam. Went in with 8 (2 were homebrews) and I only even glanced at one of them. They are were my safety blanket, keeping me safe through the treacherous division of power problem.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan

I agree with the first point, but this wasn't a numbers test at all. Completely theory.

My problem with it is that when you have a slide in your notes with the ownership structures of 50 countries larger companies and all you really mention in class on it is that you can see some are more owned by families, governments, pension funds etc, and then go ask the following question:

Which of the following countries large companies are primarily owned by wealthy families:

a)Agrentina
b)Norway
c)Hong Kong
d)Sweden
e)All except a
f)All except b
g)All except c
h)All except d
i)All of the above
j)None of the above.

Thankfully I knew the answer was f) but only because i had been talking to a buddy about the Norway pension fund a couple weeks ago. It was never even mentioned in class.

Trivial #### like that and what analysis techniques did so and so use in his 70 page paper on such and such are not good questions.

That sounds more like a bad prof who gets off on having the 'toughest' test around and the lowest marks.

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

That sounds more like a bad prof who gets off on having the 'toughest' test around and the lowest marks.

Haha that's what you'd think. The guy is actually probably one of the best finance profs in Alberta. Degrees from Harvard, Yale, & St. Petersburg State. Taught at Harvard, Yale, Michigan, & Boston. Been the distinguished chair in finance all over the place. Unreal lectures. Terrible tests.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan

Haha that's what you'd think. The guy is actually probably one of the best finance profs in Alberta. Degrees from Harvard, Yale, & St. Petersburg State. Taught at Harvard, Yale, Michigan, & Boston. Been the distinguished chair in finance all over the place. Unreal lectures. Terrible tests.

Colour me unimpressed. There are Harvard and Yale grads all over the place who almost caused the entire financial system to collapse. I'm not convinced any of them know what the hell they're talking about, much less what they're doing.

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by Locke

Colour me unimpressed. There are Harvard and Yale grads all over the place who almost caused the entire financial system to collapse. I'm not convinced any of them know what the hell they're talking about, much less what they're doing.

Yeah i wasn't sure how to really get the point across that the guy is one of the best profs I've had in my academic career. Only negative are his tests. And they're a huge huge huge negative.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan

Yeah i wasn't sure how to really get the point across that the guy is one of the best profs I've had in my academic career. Only negative are his tests. And they're a huge huge huge negative.

Ah, okay, we've all had profs we like. Maybe no one has told him that his tests suck. Go for it.

[Polaroid]

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[Rathji]

^

If you have to ask that question, then maybe you should call your academic adviser and get them to explain it to you.

No one is holding your hand here, and if you don't understand how things work - it is up to you to find out.