English woman has racist meltdown on tram - another on a tube

[Azure]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Even in Canada, I lived for most of my childhood in a town with a large first nations population and can't tell you how many times I (and other white kids) were bullied by natives. I mean with real violence, not just derogatory words. Being an immigrant family didn't help either as other white people weren't fully accepting.

I went to school with a large number of natives, and they were overwhelmingly more racist than any 'white' kid in the school.

Not only that, but they bullied and picked on visible minorities a lot. Made a point of it as well.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by fotze

I usually say its pretty nippley in here. It is pretty insensitive to women who react positively to cold temperatures.

Racist!

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I happen to disagree with you, a derogatory racial slang word when directed at a person regardless of the context is racist.

This isn't the world of Archie Bunker where you can say "Hey that nip is a pretty nice guy" or "That wop is a hard worker". Words like that in any context are racist and not acceptable.

So when black people refer to one another as n***ers as an endearment, they are actually being racist? Interesting theory.

Regardless of your position on this, I find the weight that we put on certain words fascinating.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by Ark2

So when black people refer to one another as n***ers as an endearment, they are actually being racist? Interesting theory.

Regardless of your position on this, I find the weight that we put on certain words fascinating.

Context, damnit! Context! Heck, my gf calls me a chink sometimes, but she says it as a term of endearment, not out of malice or to belittle me. Oh wait... hm... or maybe she is... ahhh... my heart... it is broken.

What are we talking about again?

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Teh_Bandwagoner

Context, damnit! Context! Heck, my gf calls me a chink sometimes, but she says it as a term of endearment, not out of malice or to belittle me. Oh wait... hm... or maybe she is... ahhh... my heart... it is broken.

What are we talking about again?

Hockeyguy15 says that context doesn't matter. I think that is more of a case of racial hyper-sensitivity than anything else. Ah well, to each their own I guess...

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Ark2

So when black people refer to one another as n***ers as an endearment, they are actually being racist? Interesting theory.

Regardless of your position on this, I find the weight that we put on certain words fascinating.

What a weak argument. There is really no point in continuing on with you is there?

I guess all the black people that are offended by other black people calling them the n word mean nothing to you.

If you are back your argument on what you hear rappers and drug dealers spouting off about then there is no point in talking at you any further. None of the black people I know call their black friends that.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Hockeyguy15 says that context doesn't matter. I think that is more of a case of racial hyper-sensitivity than anything else. Ah well, to each their own I guess...

Yep I am hypersensitive because I don't think people should be called racial slurrs in any context.

Boy am I a jackass.

[troutman]

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[valo403]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

What a weak argument. There is really no point in continuing on with you is there?

I guess all the black people that are offended by other black people calling them the n word mean nothing to you.

If you are back your argument on what you hear rappers and drug dealthers spouting off about then there is no point in talking at you any further. None of the black people I know call their black friends that.

To be fair I have a number of black friends that use that word as if they were saying 'what's up man?' and I hear it dozens of times daily in that context. Context definitely matters.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

I think since black people claim the N word is their word. The white folks should claim "gwailo" as their word. That way the chinese can't use that against you anymore.

Imagine how cool it would sound..."What's up my Gwai-lo!"

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by Ark2

It's a derogatory term, but not racist. A racist comment is one that infers that one race is inferior to another. The word "nip" may be racially insensitive, but in and of itself, it's not racist. If someone were to say: "Nips shouldn't be allowed to vote in this country," then that person has made a racist comment. On the other hand, if someone were to say: "It's nippy in here," then that person is likely just being a jackass.

The woman in that video is surely a racist, but I think too often these days people confuse racially insensitive comments with being racist. I've been called a "wop" before, but no one has ever tried to infringe on my rights because of my heritage. Therefore, I have never had to endure racism. Complaining about some kids calling you "nip" when you were younger is no different than being picked on for being fat, ugly, etc. By no means does that make it right, but let's try to keep things in the proper perspective.

Calling someone fat is racist to Americans.

[SeeBass]

I remember back in the 80's in a small praire town and we played against another basketball team from the big city of Brandon. They had an East Indian kid on their team who wore a turban. Our crowd was chanting "cover the guy with the hat!" over and over. Both parents,teachers and kids all did it, never thought anything at the time just thought it was funny. Different world indeed. I could just imagine what the kid felt like.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

Calling someone fat is racist to Americans.

Yes but the tubby #######s can't catch you so it doesn't matter.

[OnTheFly]

I think this has been a good discusion about racism. A lot of good points were brought up that hopefully made us sit back for a minute and think about how our words may hurt other people. I like to think that I have become a better person from what I have learned from this thread. But I think all of us can put aside our differences and ask the real question here.... And that is... Who let that trailer trash loud mouth b#tch out of the kitchen?

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by OnTheFly

I think this has been a good discusion about racism. A lot of good points were brought up that hopefully made us sit back for a minute and think about how our words may hurt other people. I like to think that I have become a better person from what I have learned from this thread. But I think all of us can put aside our differences and ask the real question here.... And that is... Who let that trailer trash loud mouth b#tch out of the kitchen?

Well anyone with any familiarity of the breed can tell you her sterling example of the superiority of the white race is at home (some council estate crap hole) lying on the coach in his fake burberry boxers sipping his 5th can of Tennents watching the telly while awaiting his giro.

And as she's english if she has any knowledge of where the kitchen is at all it is only because she uses the sink to throw up in occasionally.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by OnTheFly

I think this has been a good discusion about racism. A lot of good points were brought up that hopefully made us sit back for a minute and think about how our words may hurt other people. I like to think that I have become a better person from what I have learned from this thread. But I think all of us can put aside our differences and ask the real question here.... And that is... Who let that trailer trash loud mouth b#tch out of the kitchen?

No kidding. I guess the kid's older sister is tending to the crack cooking on the stove.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I happen to disagree with you, a derogatory racial slang word when directed at a person regardless of the context is racist.

This isn't the world of Archie Bunker where you can say "Hey that nip is a pretty nice guy" or "That wop is a hard worker". Words like that in any context are racist and not acceptable.

Words are not racist. People are.

Those apples are so stupid, looks at those apples jump around like monkeys

.

Did apple become a racist word or the person using it?

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

What a weak argument. There is really no point in continuing on with you is there?

I don't see how it is weak at all, actually. Words are not racist. Words can be used to convey racism, but on their own, they are just words.

I guess all the black people that are offended by other black people calling them the n word mean nothing to you.

To me, it means that they are offended by a word that they feel is being used inappropriately. Nothing more, nothing less.

If you are back your argument on what you hear rappers and drug dealers spouting off about then there is no point in talking at you any further.

I have no idea what you are saying here.

None of the black people I know call their black friends that.

Good for them.

[Montana Moe]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

Calling someone fat is racist to Americans.

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Yes but the tubby #######s can't catch you so it doesn't matter.

That's why we all own guns, you can run, but you'll just die tired.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Montana Moe

That's why we all own guns, you can run, but you'll just die tired.

You can't aim straight while trying to hold on to the super big gulp the box of Krispy kremes and a bucket o' chicken, we'll survive.