11-24-2011, 03:12 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
It's likely Calgary, that works out to roughly $10,000 per person.
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Nope its Alberta...
A recently released report by the province’s finance department might offer a clue. According to the report, Alberta is the largest net contributor to Confederation, with Albertans paying an estimated $14.1 billion, or $3,785 per person, more to the federal government than they got back in the form of services in 2010.
http://www.unlimitedmagazine.com/201...ents-is-wrong/
Actually a good article on transfers...
Albertans face the same federal tax rates as other Canadians, but because of Albertans’ higher-than-average incomes, the province of Alberta contributes considerably more per capita than other Canadians. That’s how taxation works. Let’s be extra clear here: if you earn $60,000 a year in Alberta, you will pay exactly the same amount to the federal government as someone earning $60,000 a year in Quebec.
The program’s purpose, as stated in the Canadian Constitution in 1982, is to “ensure that provincial governments have sufficient revenues to provide reasonably comparable levels of public services at reasonably comparable levels of taxation.” That is accomplished through four main transfer programs: the Canada Health Transfer, the Canada Social Transfer, Equalization Financing and Territorial Formula Financing.
Equalization payments, which a receiving jurisdiction is free to spend according to their own priorities, are determined by “fiscal capacity” – that is, measuring a province’s ability to raise revenues.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/re.../prb0639-e.htm
Last edited by Cheese; 11-24-2011 at 03:21 PM.
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11-24-2011, 03:13 PM
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#22
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by Bunk
Please call your MP.
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I don't think Prime Minister Steve would take my call.
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11-24-2011, 03:16 PM
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#23
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Parallex
I don't think Prime Minister Steve would take my call.
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Just hit yourself in the sack with a hammer and tell the receptionist that you're the first lady of Canada.
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11-24-2011, 03:19 PM
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#24
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Voted for Kodos
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Originally Posted by Parallex
I don't think Prime Minister Steve would take my call.
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he still would have a constituency office.
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11-24-2011, 03:26 PM
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#25
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary
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11-24-2011, 03:29 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parallex
I don't think Prime Minister Steve would take my call.
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Shall I walk over to his house and knock on his front door for you? Although I doubt he's home.
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11-24-2011, 03:32 PM
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#27
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Shall I walk over to his house and knock on his front door for you? Although I doubt he's home.
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Good luck with that.
Let us know how it turns out.
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11-24-2011, 03:35 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cheese
Nope its Alberta...
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The fact that that's the Alberta contribution doesn't necessarily exclude that from also being the Calgary contribution. It's at least theoretically possible that the full 14B is paid extra by Calgary, and the rest of the province gets back as much as they put in.
This actually seems not unlikely to me if taxes/fees paid by companies are reported by their headquarters.
The federal gov't has more operations in Edmonton and rural areas than they do Calgary (military bases, etc), so spending in other areas are higher, whereas taxes collected would be higher in Calgary due to higher incomes.
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11-24-2011, 03:41 PM
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Franchise Player
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Interestingly the "sport infrastructure" category of projects eligible for P3 Canada (there are 16 total) for which these recreation centres (a subcategory) were applied under has now disappeared from P3 Canada's website. It was there this morning and brought on the screen during the Mayor's press conference today.
http://www.p3canada.ca/p3-canada-fun...categories.php
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11-24-2011, 03:43 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by Titan
Good luck with that.
Let us know how it turns out.
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No one was home. Are you surprised by this result?
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11-24-2011, 03:46 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
No one was home. Are you surprised by this result?
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Did you go through every room and check to see if anyone was there?
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11-24-2011, 03:46 PM
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#32
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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This will mark probably the only time I ever email my MP.
If there's one thing I loathe it's late ice times. We need more rinks BADLY.
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11-24-2011, 03:47 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by bizaro86
Did you go through every room and check to see if anyone was there?
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No but I snooped into the backyard and peered into his kitchen. Nothing of note. Although he backs onto a ravine so I was weary of joggers going by, so my sleuthing was minimal.
Just in case Mr Harper's RC's ever come across this post I AM JOKING.
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11-24-2011, 03:57 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunk
Interestingly the "sport infrastructure" category of projects eligible for P3 Canada (there are 16 total) for which these recreation centres (a subcategory) were applied under has now disappeared from P3 Canada's website. It was there this morning and brought on the screen during the Mayor's press conference today.
http://www.p3canada.ca/p3-canada-fun...categories.php
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Yup, and in their haste to remove they still say there are sixteen categories at the top of that page:
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The P3 Canada Fund supports public infrastructure projects in the following sixteen different eligible categories exclusively.
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A couple of #yyccc followers spotted this right away, and Markusoff threw it up on his "Hall Monitor" blog on the Herald (complete with November 18th screen captures showing the category still there).
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11-24-2011, 04:13 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bizaro86
The fact that that's the Alberta contribution doesn't necessarily exclude that from also being the Calgary contribution. It's at least theoretically possible that the full 14B is paid extra by Calgary, and the rest of the province gets back as much as they put in.
This actually seems not unlikely to me if taxes/fees paid by companies are reported by their headquarters.
The federal gov't has more operations in Edmonton and rural areas than they do Calgary (military bases, etc), so spending in other areas are higher, whereas taxes collected would be higher in Calgary due to higher incomes.
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Not to sound rude but...jeez thats about as much of a stretch as Ive ever heard.
Im not a big proponent of the Transfer Tax system as it now stands, inequalities with Quebec at the top of the list, but it does serve a purpose and if it is properly studied and fixed I think it is still a solid practice.
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11-24-2011, 05:28 PM
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#37
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Lifetime Suspension
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I have Rob Anders personal email and I sent him an email on this issue.
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11-24-2011, 05:29 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: YSJ (1979-2002) -> YYC (2002-2022) -> YVR (2022-present)
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This, unfortunately, is what happens when an area blindly votes for one party no matter what. Why would the CPC spend money in Calgary when they know they have our seats locked up? From a political perspective, it's better for Harper et al to throw money at swing ridings so they can tout all that they did for those people during the next election.
And the Conservatives know they can get away with it without any electoral consequences. What are Calgarians going to do, vote for the Liberals or the NDP?
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11-24-2011, 05:37 PM
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#39
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
This, unfortunately, is what happens when an area blindly votes for one party no matter what.
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This statement remains as stupid as ever.
When the Liberals actually make an effort to cultivate support in this city/province, or the NDP's policies come somewhere close to reality, they will grow in support.
Notwithstanding this stupidity, the PCs/Reform/CA/CPCs have pretty much been the only party that even pretended to care about this city and province over the past several decades.
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11-24-2011, 05:40 PM
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#40
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I believe in the Jays.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by THE SCUD
I have Rob Anders personal email and I sent him an email on this issue.
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You attempted to communicate with Rob Anders... did you feel the urge to take a shower after doing so? I've met Rob Anders three times and he gives me the creeps.
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