Occupy Calgary/Do Not Merge

[anyonebutedmonton]

Originally Posted by photon

Which is interesting, the judge actually concludes that the eviction notice does infringe on their section 2 freedoms:

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That's what I got anyway, legal documents are not much fun.

From a cursory glance it seems that he decides it is a "reasonable" infringement on their rights, no?

[photon]

Originally Posted by anyonebutedmonton

From a cursory glance it seems that he decides it is a "reasonable" infringement on their rights, no?

Yup:

E. Conclusion on section 1 of the Charter
[124] For the reasons set out above, I conclude that the City has established that the limitations resulting from the enforcement of the Trespass Notice on the applicants’ section 2 freedoms are “reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society”.

Because our laws are going to be different (the Tresspass to Property Act is from Ontario I believe) I assume the judgment isn't totally meaningful to us, but if we have a similar law it would seem reasonable to assume a similar conclusion.

[calculoso]

Listening to the radio coming home from work (in Ontario), it appears that people at Occupy Toronto are wearing riot gear while waiting for police.

Riot gear? How did they get that?

To me, it definitely shows their motives. Hold out, draw violence...

[CaptainCrunch]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/11...spass-notices/

Protesters chanted obscenities against police as officers accompanied city officials from tent to tent.

[FLAME ENVY]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Here is CaptainCrunch's list of demands

1) Get hot chicks, I mean seriously, I'm tired of turning on the news and seeing a bunch of filthy bearded turnips, and fat greasy angry woman. I'll pay a lot more attention if I hear something that sounds somewhat intelligent and is slightly pleasing to the eye.

2) How about cleaning up after yourself, thats right, pick up your paper, and your garbage and your poop

3) You pissed me off when you started damaging the flag, I might consider bringing a 12 pack of water in exchange for 15 minutes alone with the morons who thought it was clever or somehow deep to desacrate the flag.
4) Pack up your crap and leave, you people are situationally unaware that your not only a running joke, but your completely oblivious to the actual so called 99% that your suppossed to represent. You could make a grand gesture by saying, ok we raised some awareness (for whatever is beyond me) its time to go home.
5) If you're on UI or Welfare, then take that money and donate it to the homeless and helpless. Show us that your truly above the need to suck off of the system.
6) I will bring down the hobo barrel for your fire if your willing to fuel it with your Ed Hardy and Roots clothes, your Nike running shoes, your Ipads and laptops, you know, all of that corporate stuff that you're suppossed to hate.
7) Seperate yourself from the Union, you've become a mouthpiece and you're being used and you're too stupid to know it.
8) If you want to be an activist, be an activist, if you want to brag about the social change your bringing about then go work at a soup kitchen, or maybe habitat for humanity, don't b1tch about the system and give yourself the illusion that your changing it, news flash, you're not changing it, the system will eventually grind you down and out of the park.
9) Get a job, yeah I'm talking to you, me "I don't work", I'm talking to you idiot smoker whining about a fine for butting out smokes on your linited income, obviously you're well enough to sit in a freezing tent all day advertising awareness, if your well enough to do that, you're well enough to work.
10) Get a fricken clue, nobody respects your spirit finger, singing bowl mediating crap, there's a reason why there's only a dozen of you left, its because your morons, and making demands like this when your a dozen strong is simply ######ed.

Exactly !!

[Southside]

I seem to recall CP being quite pro Nenshi leading up to his election. I realize this is only one issue, but, it would seem that the CP support Nenshi once had may not be with him anymore, based on various comments. One term mayor? Am I misreading things? Has his approval rating really taken a set back and is it largely due to this issue?

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Southside

I seem to recall CP being quite pro Nenshi leading up to his election. I realize this is only one issue, but, it would seem that the CP support Nenshi once had may not be with him anymore, based on various comments. One term mayor? Am I misreading things? Has his approval rating really taken a set back and is it largely due to this issue?

I don't think there is such a thing as a one term Mayor in Calgary.

This is merely a hiccup for him, if at all. It will be long forgotten by 2013.

[Ozy_Flame]

Nenshi recently got an 86% approval rating among Canadian mayors. . . . He is still riding his high. That will come down though, it always does.

[First Lady]

I predict Nenshi will run for Liberal leadership (Fed or Prov) before he ever gets defeated as Mayor.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by First Lady

I predict Nenshi will run for Liberal leadership (Fed or Prov) before he ever gets defeated as Mayor.

I don't see that. I guess I could be wrong, but a lot of his issues are really municipal issues. Thats not to say he couldn't pick up the others, it just doesn't seem to be his passion.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Slava

I don't see that. I guess I could be wrong, but a lot of his issues are really municipal issues. Thats not to say he couldn't pick up the others, it just doesn't seem to be his passion.

Not now perhaps. But he's spent a lot of time in TO and is gem to the CBC.

Give him a couple terms as Mayor; he'll be looking a other options.

[First Lady]

Cory crunched the numbers on the "wish list"

$1,608,900.00

Read how he got the total here: http://www.corymorgan.com/?p=655

PS: I didn't check his math.

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by First Lady

Not now perhaps. But he's spent a lot of time in TO and is gem to the CBC.

Give him a couple terms as Mayor; he'll be looking a other options.

Perhaps, but he does genuinely dislike party politics. As he's said, he has his dream job - I think it will be a long while before he gets antsy to do something different - assuming Calgarians still want him as Mayor.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Bunk

Perhaps, but he does genuinely dislike party politics. As he's said, he has his dream job - I think it will be a long while before he gets antsy to do something different - assuming Calgarians still want him as Mayor.

I believe Nenshi will head into urban planning when he's done being Mayor. City infrastructure and building 'smart' cities has been his passion for a while now. Moreso than politics itself, even though the two concepts are tied together.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Southside

I seem to recall CP being quite pro Nenshi leading up to his election. I realize this is only one issue, but, it would seem that the CP support Nenshi once had may not be with him anymore, based on various comments. One term mayor? Am I misreading things? Has his approval rating really taken a set back and is it largely due to this issue?

CP isn't a single entity, so it's entirely possible that a lot of "pro Nenshi" people are still so, and the negative sentiment is just those upset with the current situation.

Personally I'm kind of glad a mayor isn't a dictator that can just order the police to do whatever he wants. Whatever Nenshi does I presume council, legal counsel, bylaw offices, and who knows who else are involved in the process.

It'd be nice if the city moved through the things it's decided are necessary to get from here to a usable park quicker for sure, maybe with a court weighing in things will pick up.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by First Lady

Cory crunched the numbers on the "wish list"

$1,608,900.00

Read how he got the total here: http://www.corymorgan.com/?p=655

PS: I didn't check his math.

I'll give them a buck sixty to bugger off, in other words, I'll give them exactly what they're worth.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by photon

CP isn't a single entity, so it's entirely possible that a lot of "pro Nenshi" people are still so, and the negative sentiment is just those upset with the current situation.

Personally I'm kind of glad a mayor isn't a dictator that can just order the police to do whatever he wants. Whatever Nenshi does I presume council, legal counsel, bylaw offices, and who knows who else are involved in the process.

It'd be nice if the city moved through the things it's decided are necessary to get from here to a usable park quicker for sure, maybe with a court weighing in things will pick up.

I'm pro-Nenshi but I still think that this has very little to do with him. Its not like the bylaws officers are his personal henchmen!

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Southside

I seem to recall CP being quite pro Nenshi leading up to his election. I realize this is only one issue, but, it would seem that the CP support Nenshi once had may not be with him anymore, based on various comments. One term mayor? Am I misreading things? Has his approval rating really taken a set back and is it largely due to this issue?

Keep in mind, most of the anti-Nenshi comments in this thread are from the posters that were against him from the day he was elected. They're just very vocal in this thread.

[First Lady]

Just got a call from my son.

Police & by-law currently dismantling Occupy Calgary.

[First Lady]

Reports (tweets) saying is pretty calm dismantling thus far.