10-19-2011, 05:13 PM
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#1241
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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I can't believe Palmer is starting on Sunday vs. KC. How do they expect to win when Palmer hasn't become accustomed to the playbook, the audibles and philosophy of the Raiders offense?
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10-19-2011, 06:48 PM
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#1242
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil Pedro
I can't believe Palmer is starting on Sunday vs. KC. How do they expect to win when Palmer hasn't become accustomed to the playbook, the audibles and philosophy of the Raiders offense?
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Two words: Kyle. Boller.
It won't be the full playbook and with KC's run defense and Run DMC, Palmer will likely be asked to throw less than 25 passes.
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10-19-2011, 07:26 PM
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#1243
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy
Two words: Kyle. Boller.
It won't be the full playbook and with KC's run defense and Run DMC, Palmer will likely be asked to throw less than 25 passes.
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Good point in regards to Kyle Boller, I dont think he would start in the CFL. Still, I look at the fact that Palmer not being at any training camp, not knowing the plays, etc as a major concern. I would rather have Boller out there to hand off to DMC or Bush, and let him though 5-10 passes and hope Janikowski kicks five 55+ field goals. I think the fact that this is a divisional game has put a lot of stock into the decision to start Palmer too.
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10-19-2011, 07:26 PM
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#1244
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#1 Goaltender
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it would not surprise me if he's had the playbook for a month and a half.
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10-19-2011, 07:28 PM
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#1245
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Was Hue Jackson the OC in Cincinnati beforehand?
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10-19-2011, 07:36 PM
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#1246
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Olympic Guru
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: PL1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil Pedro
Was Hue Jackson the OC in Cincinnati beforehand?
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He was a WR coach there from 04-06 according to Wikipedia.
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10-19-2011, 10:10 PM
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#1247
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
It's a great deal for Oakland, because they would have just blown those draft picks anyway!
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You do realize the Oakland team that dominated their division rivals 6-0 and the team that is 4-2 and very easily could have been 5-1 is comprised of drafted players. I would hardly say they are busts. Russell was a complete joke but Al Davis has scored on plenty of current draft picks.
These are are all drafted starters for the current Raiders drafted by Al Davis. Not depth players Starters.
DHB WR
Louis Murphy WR
Jacoby Ford WR
Denarius Moore WR
Chaz Schilens WR
Myers TE
Veldeer LT
Wisniewski LG
Campbell RG
DMC RB
Bush RB
Houston DT
McClain MLB
Branch SS
Huff FS
Chekwa CB
Van Dyke CB
Janokowski K
Lechler P
The Raiders have one of the youngest teams in the NFL and now they have a leader at QB. 
You are right it is a good deal for the Raiders but not because they would burn the picks.
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Last edited by Stay Golden; 10-19-2011 at 10:15 PM.
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10-19-2011, 10:13 PM
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#1248
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Not to mention Al Davis has drafted more HOF players than any single person at 20.
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10-20-2011, 07:59 AM
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
Yeah, Oakland's drafting in general hasn't been all that atrocious the last couple of years. Heyward-Bey and Russel were misses but other than that they've been able to grab some productive players.
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Is Heyward-Bey really that bad? He was a serious reach at that spot in the draft, but this year he's been much better. His numbers are better than Michael Crabtree this year.
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10-20-2011, 08:11 AM
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#1250
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
I like this pick up. He isn't as good as he used to be but instantly becomes the power back the Lions need for short yardage. Plus it helps with Best getting another concussion.
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The trade between the lions and eagles has been voided. Injury concerns with Harrison
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...l?sct=hp_t2_a9
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10-20-2011, 10:02 AM
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#1251
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Golden
You do realize the Oakland team that dominated their division rivals 6-0 and the team that is 4-2 and very easily could have been 5-1 is comprised of drafted players. I would hardly say they are busts. Russell was a complete joke but Al Davis has scored on plenty of current draft picks.
These are are all drafted starters for the current Raiders drafted by Al Davis. Not depth players Starters.
DHB WR
Louis Murphy WR
Jacoby Ford WR
Denarius Moore WR
Chaz Schilens WR
Myers TE
Veldeer LT
Wisniewski LG
Campbell RG
DMC RB
Bush RB
Houston DT
McClain MLB
Branch SS
Huff FS
Chekwa CB
Van Dyke CB
Janokowski K
Lechler P
The Raiders have one of the youngest teams in the NFL and now they have a leader at QB.
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The Raiders start 5 WR every game?
That list is hardly impressive....terrible argument.
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10-20-2011, 10:06 AM
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#1252
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Golden
Not to mention Al Davis has drafted more HOF players than any single person at 20. |
I'd like to see that list, please.
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10-20-2011, 10:50 AM
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#1254
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Austin, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Golden
You do realize the Oakland team that dominated their division rivals 6-0 and the team that is 4-2 and very easily could have been 5-1 is comprised of drafted players. I would hardly say they are busts. .
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I hate when people say could have very easily been 5-1. Easily how? They lost that game. Stop working in the world of what ifs. They are 4-2. If it was easily done then they would be 5-1.
Last edited by FlamingLonghorn; 10-20-2011 at 10:59 AM.
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10-20-2011, 11:17 AM
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#1255
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Papi34
ronnie brown to the lions for harrison and conditional piclk
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Trade has since been voided due to Harrison failing his physical, as I'm sure most on here heard yesterday. New developments have since come out today though. The reason he failed his test is because during the physical, they detected a brain tumour. This trade may have saved his life, as he may have not had the physical otherwise.
Scary stuff for Harrison, hopefully he can make a full recovery.
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10-20-2011, 11:28 AM
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#1256
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Here is a list of all HOF'ers to play for the Raiders at any point...and Davis certainly didnt draft all of them.
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Yeah, I think I saw that list but as you said, Al didn't draft them all.
And I'm not sure how much influence he has when he was with the Chargers - he had a lot of roles but I'm not sure how involved he was with the final decision who to draft.
And even then, it is 50 years of drafts he has been involved in - only Mike Brown may come close to having a chance to be involved in that many and if they didn't own the team then they probably couldn't have amassed those records.
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"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
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10-20-2011, 12:47 PM
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#1257
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sowa
I hate when people say could have very easily been 5-1. Easily how? They lost that game. Stop working in the world of what ifs. They are 4-2. If it was easily done then they would be 5-1.
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much like Rex Ryan when he says the Jets will win every year and when he said the packers are lucky they didnt face the Jets...
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10-20-2011, 01:23 PM
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#1258
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Speaking of Rex Ryan, the guy needs to shut up on the podium. Listen I get it, you're an NFL coach and you've had some success. But saying you would win a couple of rings if you were coaching a different team is completely uncalled for and an unclassy move. Focus on how you are going to win your game next week, not on your own personal agenda.
http://www.chargers.com/news/article...b-d9d936d19f8c]
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10-20-2011, 01:34 PM
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#1259
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#1 Goaltender
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How would you feel as a player if your coach said "I'd have Super Bowl rings if I coached a different team"? Stupid, stupid thing for Rex to say
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10-20-2011, 01:40 PM
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#1260
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Austin, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk diggler
much like Rex Ryan when he says the Jets will win every year and when he said the packers are lucky they didnt face the Jets...
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Actually it's not the same at all. Rex is making a prediction that his team is going to win. He doesn't ever say "oh our team should have won that game".
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