10-05-2011, 09:04 AM
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#21
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Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby
I watch TNG for the nostalgia of growing up. I watch Deep Space Nine for the characters and the storytelling.
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Any you watch Enterprise when you fall asleep on the couch with Space on amirite?
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10-05-2011, 09:05 AM
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#22
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Flashpoint
Call me when they have "Yesterday's Enterprise" available. That episode was awesome.
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Pretty much. That episode is when TNG really stepped up its game.
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10-05-2011, 09:05 AM
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#23
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They should make a box set of all the Q episodes across all of the different series. Q is awesome.
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10-05-2011, 09:07 AM
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#24
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Pretty much. That episode is when TNG really stepped up its game.
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Measure of a Man is a great episode and that was season two! But Shades of Grey nullifies any good in season two.
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Originally Posted by Boblobla
Any you watch Enterprise when you fall asleep on the couch with Space on amirite?
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No when I was to fall asleep I watch Star Trek: The Motion Picture. I have more than enough self respect to not watch Enterprise. Sorry Dr. Beckett.
Edit: Oh and The Inner Light is overrated.
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10-05-2011, 09:08 AM
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Scoring Winger
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To quote Dr. Sheldon Cooper:
"Wil Wheaton...the Jar Jar Binks of the Star Trek universe"
Hopefully someone comes up with a Wesley-less Blu-Ray cut of TNG. That I would pay for.
Having said that, Wil Wheaton is hilarious on Big Bang Theory. It's just unfortunate that he played one of the 5 most annoying characters in sci-fi history on TNG. (PS He's the only Trek guy on that list, the rest are all Star Wars...as are the next 50 after that)
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10-05-2011, 09:12 AM
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#26
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby
Measure of a Man is a great episode and that was season two! But Shades of Grey nullifies any good in season two.
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Agreed, but Yesterday's Enterprise was the episode where TNG stepped into legendary status. Especially with episodes like Sins of the Father, which set up pretty much the only decent recurring storyline in the entire series, and The Best of Both Worlds, which should have been a movie, following closely behind it.
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10-05-2011, 09:12 AM
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#27
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Agreed, but Yesterday's Enterprise was the episode where TNG stepped into legendary status. Especially with episodes like Sins of the Father, which set up pretty much the only decent recurring storyline in the entire series, and The Best of Both Worlds, which should have been a movie, following closely behind it.
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Season Three-Season Five was some of the best TNG.
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10-05-2011, 09:13 AM
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#28
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In the Sin Bin
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BTW, fun Wesley Crusher fact: In Olympic Plaza, there is a brick that says "Wil Wheaton, Star Trek, 1987". I can't imagine Wil had any fans back then, so he must have bought the brick and engraving himself.
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10-05-2011, 09:13 AM
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#29
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I outright hated TNG, just because the characters were milquetoast, the ship was ugly, Wesley Crusher made me want to bash my head in with a shovel.
They had carpet in the Enterprise, the ship never took real damage, and the universe always worked out right.
Give me DS9 anyday where the characters were flawed, they usually made bad decisions for the right reason. they took damage in battle and killed people in horrible ways.
And the universe was not a happy and safe place where things went wrong but could be fixed with diplomacy.
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the cool stuff only happened when the show matured. the first couple of seasons were pretty dull and it was basically TNG 2.0 for the first bit. basically when Sisko grew his beard, then the show got good
plus i hated pretty much anything to do with the Bajorans. at least they tried with the Cardasians, shapeshifters, and every other race. but sticking a few ridges on their noses and calling them aliens always bugged me
Last edited by Hemi-Cuda; 10-05-2011 at 09:16 AM.
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10-05-2011, 09:15 AM
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#30
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...All Good Things is one of the best episodes of television ever. Probably the best series finale i've ever seen (although to be fair there were additional films)
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10-05-2011, 09:17 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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What's the name of the episode where they first encounter the Borg? That is my favourite episode by far.
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10-05-2011, 09:19 AM
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#32
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby
Season Three-Season Five was some of the best TNG.
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I'd go from three to the end, myself. Gambit is one of the best episodes of any Star Trek series, save for the anticlimactic ending. And even then, that ending set up the perfect plot device to explain why every alien everywhere is humanoid. The Pegasus and Lower Decks were also amazing season seven episodes - both of which broke the "Happy, friendly Federation where everything turns out right in the end" mold. And season six's Timescape I love just for this scene:
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10-05-2011, 09:20 AM
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#33
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
the cool stuff only happened when the show matured. the first couple of seasons were pretty dull and it was basically TNG 2.0 for the first bit. basically when Sisko grew his beard, then the show got good
plus i hated pretty much anything to do with the Bajorans. at least they tried with the Cardasians, shapeshifters, and every other race. but sticking a few ridges on their noses and calling them aliens always bugged me
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It wasn't only ridges, they all had matching earrings as well.
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10-05-2011, 09:22 AM
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#34
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Originally Posted by OilKiller
What's the name of the episode where they first encounter the Borg? That is my favourite episode by far.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_Who%3F
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10-05-2011, 09:23 AM
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#35
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
I'd go from three to the end, myself. Gambit is one of the best episodes of any Star Trek series, save for the anticlimactic ending. And even then, that ending set up the perfect plot device to explain why every alien everywhere is humanoid. The Pegasus and Lower Decks were also amazing season seven episodes - both of which broke the "Happy, friendly Federation where everything turns out right in the end" mold. And season six's Timescape I love just for this scene:
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Oh Six and Seven had some great episodes as well. I loved Chain of Command, I agree that Gambit is underrated. However Season Seven had Sub Rosa. *shudders*
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10-05-2011, 09:23 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Every "kid" in a Star Trek series is annoying. Wesley, Jake, Nob, Naomi, the planet of kids in TOS....
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10-05-2011, 09:25 AM
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#37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
plus i hated pretty much anything to do with the Bajorans. at least they tried with the Cardasians, shapeshifters, and every other race. but sticking a few ridges on their noses and calling them aliens always bugged me
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I'll disagree. While the first season of DS9 was mired in TNG plots and guest stars, "Hey Look it's Vash and Q", "OMG The Duras Sisters". Season one also had Duet, which was the first episode to set the path for what DS9 became. But hey, it was a Kira episode so if you hate the Bajorans I'm sure you've forgotten about it.
Oh and if you hate the nose ridges don't watch TOS. Most of the aliens of the week looks like humans
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10-05-2011, 09:30 AM
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#38
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby
Oh Six and Seven had some great episodes as well. I loved Chain of Command, I agree that Gambit is underrated. However Season Seven had Sub Rosa. *shudders*
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Hero Worship. Ugh.
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10-05-2011, 09:33 AM
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#39
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Hero Worship. Ugh.
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I'd rather watch 'Hero Worship' than the Ann Rice knock off 'Sub Rosa'. So many flaws with that episode.
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Originally Posted by Byrns
Every "kid" in a Star Trek series is annoying. Wesley, Jake, Nob, Naomi, the planet of kids in TOS....
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Do you mean Nog? Nog developed into a decent character who ended up carrying on the best season seven episodes 'It's Only a Paper Moon'
Last edited by Yeah_Baby; 10-05-2011 at 09:35 AM.
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10-05-2011, 09:34 AM
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#40
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Last edited by Yeah_Baby; 10-06-2011 at 08:25 AM.
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