Casey Anthony - Guilty, or not guilty?

[Montana Moe]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Hahah, awesome.




sportsguy33 Bill Simmons



Now we need one of Johnnie Cochran's kids to weigh in. RT @KimKardashian: WHAT!!??!! CASEY ANTHONY NOT GUILTY!!!! I'm speechless!!!

Along the same line:
@KimKardashian: CASEY ANTHONY FOUND NOT GUILTY!!!! I am speechless!!!

@HahawhitePPL----so was Nicole Brown Simpson's family when your dad got OJ off!!!!

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Lchoy

Not to derail the thread, but I'm curious about your theory

Its a tough theory to me, but his son had the same access to that home.

OJ was pretty much a battered wreck by that age, I question that he could physically do the crime. His son could.

On the night of the murders Jason left his job as a chef early at 9:45 supposedly the murders happened sometime after 10:00

He lied about his time leaving work when questioned by the cops.

He took his set of chef knives home with him that night.

He had a history of rage issues

He had motive.

It explains why the gloves were to small for OJ, it also would explain that when OJ tried to take the murder weapon from his sons hands he received that nasty cut and the funky blood evidence.

I believe that Jason murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and her boyfriend that night. Somehow OJ stumbled upon it and struggled to take the knife away from his son, he also took any other evidence including the gloves which were too small for his hands.

In an effort to do his fatherly thing, he attempted to badly cover up his sons involvement.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its a tough theory to me, but his son had the same access to that home.

OJ was pretty much a battered wreck by that age, I question that he could physically do the crime. His son could.

On the night of the murders Jason left his job as a chef early at 9:45 supposedly the murders happened sometime after 10:00

He lied about his time leaving work when questioned by the cops.

He took his set of chef knives home with him that night.

He had a history of rage issues

He had motive.

It explains why the gloves were to small for OJ, it also would explain that when OJ tried to take the murder weapon from his sons hands he received that nasty cut and the funky blood evidence.

I believe that Jason murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and her boyfriend that night. Somehow OJ stumbled upon it and struggled to take the knife away from his son, he also took any other evidence including the gloves which were too small for his hands.

In an effort to do his fatherly thing, he attempted to badly cover up his sons involvement.

You are on a roll today CC. Between this, and "breaking a cell phone contract." I don't know what is more bullet proof.

I will admit, this is one of the first theories on OJ that actually made me say... hmmmph, maybe there is another explanation.

[GirlySports]

I did not follow this trial much but the crime of a mother murdering a child is a special one. Special obstacles to gaining conviction in the minds of jurors.

In some ways, this is the single most vile, most unacceptable crime possible. In the juror's mind, he doesn't want to consider the possibility that their own mother was capable of snuffing them, which is a natural extension of convicting the mother standing before them. You're almost tricked into thinking.. this can't happen, no one would do this. The juror's mind is predisposed to grasp at any and all straws to break from consideration that any mother (their own mother) could murder her offspring. the juror's mind is looking for an excuse, a doubt. So there's a psychological bias right there.


I have no idea if it played out, and to what extent, in this case but that's what I keep thinking.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I did not follow this trial much but the crime of a mother murdering a child is a special one. Special obstacles to gaining conviction in the minds of jurors.

In some ways, this is the single most vile, most unacceptable crime possible. In the juror's mind, he doesn't want to consider the possibility that their own mother was capable of snuffing them, which is a natural extension of convicting the mother standing before them. You're almost tricked into thinking.. this can't happen, no one would do this. The juror's mind is predisposed to grasp at any and all straws to break from consideration that any mother (their own mother) could murder her offspring. the juror's mind is looking for an excuse, a doubt. So there's a psychological bias right there.


I have no idea if it played out, and to what extent, in this case but that's what I keep thinking.

I would think with the ugliness of the crime that it would be opposite and the jury would be looking for a reason to convict.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by pylon

You are on a roll today CC. Between this, and "breaking a cell phone contract." I don't know what is more bullet proof.

I will admit, this is one of the first theories on OJ that actually made me say... hmmmph, maybe there is another explanation.

I figure that someday somehow somebody is going to give me a T.V. show on Spike.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I would think with the ugliness of the crime that it would be opposite and the jury would be looking for a reason to convict.

That's what I mean though. The crime is SO UGLY that you're tricked into believing that it couldn't happen. There's no way a mother would kill their own child this way. There must be something else to it, there must be a mistake. You end up looking for doubt as more and more evidence rolls in. And if the prosecution does a poor job, then it's easy to find doubt.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by pylon

You are on a roll today CC. Between this, and "breaking a cell phone contract." I don't know what is more bullet proof.

I will admit, this is one of the first theories on OJ that actually made me say... hmmmph, maybe there is another explanation.

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[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

If this story was about a single father and the scenerio was the same, there would be no chance of a not guilty verdict.

Guy Turcotte who murdered his two children was found not criminally responsible for their deaths today.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its a tough theory to me, but his son had the same access to that home.

OJ was pretty much a battered wreck by that age, I question that he could physically do the crime. His son could.

On the night of the murders Jason left his job as a chef early at 9:45 supposedly the murders happened sometime after 10:00

He lied about his time leaving work when questioned by the cops.

He took his set of chef knives home with him that night.

He had a history of rage issues

He had motive.

It explains why the gloves were to small for OJ, it also would explain that when OJ tried to take the murder weapon from his sons hands he received that nasty cut and the funky blood evidence.

I believe that Jason murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and her boyfriend that night. Somehow OJ stumbled upon it and struggled to take the knife away from his son, he also took any other evidence including the gloves which were too small for his hands.

In an effort to do his fatherly thing, he attempted to badly cover up his sons involvement.

So, why isn't the Goldman family all over that? Why so vengeful they took OJ to civil court and won a $33 million verdict against him? Wouldn't the truth matter to them?

Why wouldn't government prosecutors come back at it later? You can't get OJ anymore because of double jeopardy but the son is wide open and you've got different people running the show.

Why the famous Bronco chase? OJ had a conviction, I think, for violence against Nicole earlier.

Was Jason wearing a hockey mask when he set upon the unlucky duo with a knife?

Cowperson

[VladtheImpaler]

Oh, ruin it with your "facts"... you...

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

So, why isn't the Goldman family all over that? Why so vengeful they took OJ to civil court and won a $33 million verdict against him? Wouldn't the truth matter to them?

Everyone went with the most obvious choice, ex husband jealous and angry. His blood on the knife, the cut on his hand. And angry father with tunnel vision

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Why wouldn't government prosecutors come back at it later? You can't get OJ anymore because of double jeopardy but the son is wide open and you've got different people running the show.

The problem is that the physical evidence pointed to OJ, the bloody gloves had his blood on them for example, and he fled. Meanwhile Jason who didn't cut himself with the knife, who's blood wasn't anywhere to be found wasn't looked at as a suspect. As soon as OJ jumped in the bronco there was a tunnel vision effect created by the prosecution.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Why the famous Bronco chase? OJ had a conviction, I think, for violence against Nicole earlier.

Maybe he did it to give his son time to destroy the rest of the physical evidence that pointed to him. Maybe he knew he was boned even though his son did the killing and in his grief and depression decided to flee.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Was Jason wearing a hockey mask when he set upon the unlucky duo with a knife?

Cowperson

Nah, he was wearing a Fedora and a swanky yet incredibly itchy sweater.

[afc wimbledon]

Can't see why OJ's son would want to kill his stepmum after she left OJ, I could see it when OJ started shtupping her.

[Bobblehead]

Is Casey Anthony now going to begin a quest to find the real killer while leaving no golf course unplayed?

[CaptainCrunch]

Jason Simpson was not a nice kid, he had stabbed himself once in a suicide attempt, he had also threatened multiple woman with knives.

Suppossedly he was really critical of his step moms lifestyle and hated Ronald Goldsmth,

So here's the weirdness, on the night of the murder, Jason prepared a special meal for teh family. Remember this was the night of his half sisters recital which was suppossed to go to OJ's state of mind.

Instead Nicole decided to go have dinner at Goldsmith's restaurant declining to have dinner with Jason and his father.

Tadaa we have a kid with a violent history an expertise level with knives who was trying to bring his family together only to be snubbed by his stepmom and her honky boyfriend.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Is Casey Anthony now going to begin a quest to find the real killer while leaving no party un attended?

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[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Jason Simpson was not a nice kid, he had stabbed himself once in a suicide attempt, he had also threatened multiple woman with knives.

Suppossedly he was really critical of his step moms lifestyle and hated Ronald Goldsmth,

So here's the weirdness, on the night of the murder, Jason prepared a special meal for teh family. Remember this was the night of his half sisters recital which was suppossed to go to OJ's state of mind.

Instead Nicole decided to go have dinner at Goldsmith's restaurant declining to have dinner with Jason and his father.

Tadaa we have a kid with a violent history an expertise level with knives who was trying to bring his family together only to be snubbed by his stepmom and her honky boyfriend.

I love you in a Bears kind of way Capn', but I'm just going to go out on a limb and assume you're not smarter than all the best detectives and prosecutors and relatives of victims money can buy off.

Its not like this is a theory being trumpeted from the rooftops by the overly agitated.

Cowperson

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

I love you in a Bears kind of way Capn', but I'm just going to go out on a limb and assume you're not smarter than all the best detectives and prosecutors and relatives of victims money can buy off.

Its not like this is a theory being trumpeted from the rooftops by the overly agitated.

Cowperson

Definitely an interesting theory though; one that I had never heard of before. Sounds somewhat contrived, and more of a situation in a movie or TV show. But, I wouldn't entirely discount it if everything is as CC is saying,

And the investigators, prosecutors, and police bungled that case as a whole. So I wouldn't necessarily trust their expertise. The case might of been handled properly if it never became the public trial that it did.

Still shocked to this day that they found OJ not guilty. Believe whatever you want, but most people assumed he was guilty even before they heard the evidence. Once he "fled" the scene in his Bronco he was all but found guilty in the court of public opinion. Which is why it's hard to believe they found 12 jurors who all believed OJ was not guilty.

[GirlySports]

There's alot of screaming going on on Nancy Grace. They're pissed!

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Definitely an interesting theory though; one that I had never heard of before. Sounds somewhat contrived, and more of a situation in a movie or TV show. But, I wouldn't entirely discount it if everything is as CC is saying,

And the investigators, prosecutors, and police bungled that case as a whole. So I wouldn't necessarily trust their expertise. The case might of been handled properly if it never became the public trial that it did.

Still shocked to this day that they found OJ not guilty. Believe whatever you want, but most people assumed he was guilty even before they heard the evidence. Once he "fled" the scene in his Bronco he was all but found guilty in the court of public opinion. Which is why it's hard to believe they found 12 jurors who all believed OJ was not guilty.

In the context of history, at the time, the overwhelming majority of whites thought he was guilty and the overwhelming majority of blacks thought he was innocent.

The real incompetence of the prosecution was agreeing to a jury that was overwhelmingly black and predisposed to an innocent verdict as per the demographic split of the time.

Cowperson