Casey Anthony - Guilty, or not guilty?

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Reasonable doubt my friend. In that case, the prosecution did a sh%t horrible job and Marcia Clark lost control of the proceedings early on.

Judge Ito?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Her defence consisted of an admission to other crimes, albeit more minor, and while not charged in this particular sequence since it would have interfered with the prosecution contention she's a stone cold killer, I would wonder if they can now come back to those more minor things.

In other words, its double jeopardy on murder but that shouldn't stop them from annoying her with charges of interfering with a dead body, failure to report a death, etc, etc.

Or do they just forget the whole thing?

I'm just saying she's free because she confessed to other, chargeable things.

Cowperson

Well she's not free, she faces up to a year for the lying to investegators charges. As for subsequent charges based on her admissions at trial, I'm not sure exactly how that would work. Admissions can be used against someone in subsequent matters in most jurisdictions AFAIK, but the kicker here is that she didn't actually make an admission as she never took the stand. The defense strategy and testimony of others essentially resulted in admissions, but without her saying it you don't get that sort of confession like situation.

It will be interesting to see if they do try to come after her for other things. There may be a double jeopardy bar based on a 'lesser crimes' type theory (the lesser crimes were encapsulated in the murder charge, so the not guilty precludes charges for those lesser crimes, at least that's how I remember it) but I imagine there will be plenty of pressure to throw everythign possible at her.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

yah yah - we all know how you feel. But dude, sometimes it crashes and burns, and it's ok to admit it and still have respect for it.

Huh? Not sure what I'm supposed to be admitting to here? That the prosecution blew their case in the OJ trial and this one? Pretty sure that's exactly what I said.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

Judge Ito?

He wasn't a great job or even a good judge. He allowed the defense way to much latitude based on the celebrity status of both the lawyers and the suspect.

But the prosecution didn't give him much to work with.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by valo403

Huh? Not sure what I'm supposed to be admitting to here? That the prosecution blew their case in the OJ trial and this one? Pretty sure that's exactly what I said.

retracted

[metallicat]

*puke*

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by valo403

Well she's not free, she faces up to a year for the lying to investegators charges.

Was she out on bail since her last arrest? If she wasn't I'm sure a bunch of time will be knocked off as time served.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

That sometimes law fails and it's wrong that people who murder their children go free. That's all people in here are saying. B!tch is guilty and everyone knows it - now is not the time for 'Well according to the law blah blah'

Can you point out the 'Well according to the law blah blah' material from me? The prosecution blew it, as I have said three times now.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by valo403

Can you point out the 'Well according to the law blah blah' material from me? The prosecution blew it, as I have said three times now.

Actually, I can't because I completely misread one of you posts. Classic knee jerk and trigger happy reply button. My apologies.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by valo403

Actually, OJ was acquitted because he was not guilty. He may have done it, but the prosecution blew it, just as they appear to have done here.

Being acquitted in a court and being not guilty of the actual crime aren't the same thing though.

Just because you are found not guilty in a court of law doesn't mean you're innocent of the crime altogether.

OJ did it and this woman obviously did it.

The findings of the court don't change what (almost certainly) happened. It does obviously have a legal effect.

[corporatejay]

Hahah, awesome.




sportsguy33 Bill Simmons



Now we need one of Johnnie Cochran's kids to weigh in. RT @KimKardashian: WHAT!!??!! CASEY ANTHONY NOT GUILTY!!!! I'm speechless!!!

[FlamesAddiction]

If this story was about a single father and the scenerio was the same, there would be no chance of a not guilty verdict.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

If this story was about a single father and the scenerio was the same, there would be no chance of a not guilty verdict.

She got off because she's a woman? Is that the argument?

[Biff]

I wouldn't trust a jury of 12 South Florida "peers" to accurately decide which direction is up. American jurisprudence, especially in relation to the jury process, is an extension of the fundamental flaw in democracy as expressed by John Simon. "Democracy encourages the majority to decide things about which the majority is ignorant."

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

I hope she's not guilty. Casey Anthony is kind of hot.

Looks like your wish came true! On to the porn industry with her?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by valo403

She got off because she's a woman? Is that the argument?

I'm just saying that if she was a man, the circumstantial evidence would have made a conviction a lot more likely no matter what the prosecution bungled.

Being a young and attractive female didn't hurt her cause.

[LChoy]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

There's no doubt that the defense attorneys have easier jobs, they just have to prove reasonable doubt, the prosecutor pretty well either has to nail the person to the crime, or get a iron clad confession.

In this case the belief is that she did the murder based on her behaviors (partying etc).

And while there was some physical evidence, I don't think that the prosecutors case was strong enough to breach reasonable doubt.

And since there is no double jeapardy, we've probably seen another murderer go free(even though I'm convinced that OJ's son and not OJ did the killing)

Not to derail the thread, but I'm curious about your theory

[Komskies]

Casey Anthony, hot or not? Hot I say.

Casey Anthony, will it blend? I say likely, yes, she will blend.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'm just saying that if she was a man, the circumstantial evidence would have made a conviction a lot more likely no matter what the prosecution bungled.

Be a young and attractive female didn't hurt her cause.

Okay, I misunderstood initially. I agree to a point, she was much easier to paint as a sympathetic character than a lot of people would be. Not sure the evidence was strong enough, or presented well enough to convict someone else, but I guess that's a hypothetical we'll never know the answer to.

[Raekwon]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Was she out on bail since her last arrest? If she wasn't I'm sure a bunch of time will be knocked off as time served.

According to wikipedia

On July 5, the jury found Casey Anthony guilty on four counts of providing false information to a law enforcement officer, and not guilty of murder, aggravated manslaughter, or aggravated child abuse.[72] The judge said Anthony will be sentenced on Thursday, July 7th at 9 a.m. ET on the conviction of giving false information to law enforcement officers.[73] Anthony faces up to four years in prison on the counts for which she was found guilty but due to already having spent years in prison awaiting trial, it is possible she may be released on the date of her sentencing, July 7, 2011.[74]