06-08-2011, 12:02 PM
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#5281
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
Why fly to Boston, though? Why not fly to Vancouver to do some government business in BC and attend Game 5 as part of the trip? That would be a perfectly valid use of his travel budget. From that article, it sounds like he's taking a private government jet to Boston, watching the game, then flying home the same day. It's a completely inappropriate waste of taxpayer money.
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Maybe it's cheaper to go to Boston?  I'm sure it's fairly minor as far as "stupid things government does to waster our money" goes...
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06-08-2011, 12:02 PM
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#5282
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Love it. Would completely support Layton doing the same too...
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06-08-2011, 12:16 PM
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#5283
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Frequitude
Love it. Would completely support Layton doing the same too...
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Says the guy with a Bruins logo for an avatar...
I don't care that he is going, but to expect that taxpayers should foot the bill for the travel is a waste of money.
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06-08-2011, 12:23 PM
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#5284
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Slava
Says the guy with a Bruins logo for an avatar...
I don't care that he is going, but to expect that taxpayers should foot the bill for the travel is a waste of money.
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Well, to be fair, we don't know for sure that he isn't going to be paying for it. It is a little too much to expect your Prime Minister to fly on a regular flight as he needs the privacy and security that a normal civilian doesn't. For all we know, he is going to personally pay the expenses at some point.... I hope.
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06-08-2011, 12:43 PM
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#5285
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
Harper is flying to Boston on a government jet to cheer on the Canucks in Game 4. I'm sure he paid for the game tickets himself, but what about his travel and security expenses? No doubt that's not cheap. I'll keep this in mind the next time he talks about eliminating wasteful government spending.
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I would expect any PM to do that if a canadian team is in the SCF
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06-08-2011, 12:53 PM
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#5286
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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He's paying equivalent commercial airfare, and he bought the tickets himself.
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06-08-2011, 01:05 PM
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#5287
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Also its cheaper and safer for him to go to Boston than Vancouver
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06-08-2011, 01:16 PM
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#5288
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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If hes paying then I have no issue with it. The first article didn't mention that at all...
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06-08-2011, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by transplant99
This is about a big of a "meh" as I can imagine.
Are PM's supposd to stop going to hockey games because they are...PM's?
Unless of course he is only supposed to attend in Ottawa or calgary as that is where he resides.
What bothers me more is that he will be cheering for Vancouver....just disgraceful.  |
Really? If Harper talks about "trimming the fat" in his federal budget and then uses even a penny of taxpayers money to attend anything like this, that is hypocrisy at its worst. I voted Conservative this time, but for anyone who supported Harper and has a "meh" attitude towards something like this, call me flabbergasted. I hope he plans to personally pay for everything it costs to get him to Boston and back.
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06-08-2011, 02:35 PM
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#5290
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Really? If Harper talks about "trimming the fat" in his federal budget and then uses even a penny of taxpayers money to attend anything like this, that is hypocrisy at its worst. I voted Conservative this time, but for anyone who supported Harper and has a "meh" attitude towards something like this, call me flabbergasted. I hope he plans to personally pay for everything it costs to get him to Boston and back.
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Might want to read all the posts before your moral outrage gets too far gone.
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06-08-2011, 02:42 PM
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#5291
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So he's going to end up footing about $500 out of the what, $20,000 cost? $50,000? I have no idea how much it costs to stock a private jet with security personnel and whatever else is required for the day. I'm betting it's not cheap. All on the taxpayer dime.
At least go to Vancouver and pretend you're on government business. What a bum.
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06-08-2011, 02:51 PM
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#5292
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Obviously, every Canadian PM feels it is their duty to show up at this event and "fly the flag" because this is perceived as an event that is "important to Canadians". Is that right? I don't know. They all seem to think it's good policy.
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06-08-2011, 02:57 PM
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#5293
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Is there a link that says he's paying for the flight?
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06-08-2011, 03:19 PM
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#5294
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Slava
Is there a link that says he's paying for the flight?
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Nm, found it. How is this even news?
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06-08-2011, 03:47 PM
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#5295
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Originally Posted by old-fart
Might want to read all the posts before your moral outrage gets too far gone.
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Good to know he's paying for his own flight. I hope security details are out of his own pocket too.
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06-08-2011, 04:09 PM
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#5296
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Originally Posted by Slava
Nm, found it. How is this even news?
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Can you post the link?
The Vancouver Sun article I posted earlier said he bought the game tickets himself but didn't mention he was paying for the travel expenses too. Since he's flying on a private government jet, I assumed public funds were being used.
If this is being paid 100% out-of-pocket from Harper's personal finances, then I withdraw my objection. If even a cent of taxpayer money is being used to pay for travel and security expenses so he can attend the Stanley Cup finals, then I have a huge problem with this flagrant waste of public funds and abuse of his office.
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06-08-2011, 04:45 PM
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#5297
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Location: Moscow, ID
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Originally Posted by evman150
So he's going to end up footing about $500 out of the what, $20,000 cost? $50,000? I have no idea how much it costs to stock a private jet with security personnel and whatever else is required for the day. I'm betting it's not cheap. All on the taxpayer dime.
At least go to Vancouver and pretend you're on government business. What a bum.
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I'm the dirtiest commie I know and I don't really have a problem with this. It's a big cultural event and he's the Prime Minister. Obama goes to big American sporting events.
Canadians have decided it's worth the money to protect the Prime Minister and he should be able to travel as he sees fit.
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06-08-2011, 05:06 PM
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#5298
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When he was Leader of the Opposition in 2005, Harper criticized the Liberals for flying on Challenger jets for non-government purposes:
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"As they pad their expense account and look out the windows of their $11,000 per hour Challenger jet flights to B.C., they think that everything is going pretty well," Harper then said. "They just don't get what real life is like for ordinary Canadians."
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...et-harper.html
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06-08-2011, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder
I'm the dirtiest commie I know and I don't really have a problem with this. It's a big cultural event and he's the Prime Minister. Obama goes to big American sporting events.
Canadians have decided it's worth the money to protect the Prime Minister and he should be able to travel as he sees fit.
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I'm curious to know what you thought of Nenshi's invitation to speak in Toronto on urban planning which caused such controversy. That was a taxpayer-saving move and he got slammed for it. Harper can spend taxpayer money to go enjoy a hockey game and that's A-Ok?
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06-08-2011, 05:20 PM
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#5300
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Richmond, BC
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
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Big shocker.
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