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Originally Posted by Azure
See, what you guys are doing is the exact problem with the system. Arguing over whose fault it is.
Not to point fingers or anything.
It doesn't really matter whose fault it was. What matters is how you fix it.
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I wasn't pointing fingers until Calgaryborn jumped in and asked me the question directly, and even then my response was measured.
If you read my comment just before, I said neither party can take the high road and both must share the blame.
As for solutions, I have no freakin clue. The system is broke, with a capital B, and it seems like those in power (business and government) are just stockpiling for the coming winter. The poor people will pay the price, as they do whenever there is a big change, system shift, revolution, whatever you want to call it.
I've been saying that the system itself in the US has needed a significant overhaul for many years now, and I don't believe anything short will solve the problems down there. I'm not talking about new laws or bills, I'm not talking about different leaders or different parties, I'm talking of sweeping change in how things are done.
A change in they way the government governs, and a change in the way companies are allowed to do business and influence the government and the people.
A cultural change would help too. There is too much of a 'me first' attitude in the States. But when the lower classes get too poor, well change happens one way or the other.
Of course, no one in power would help affect these changes and all the simple minded folk are too busy pointing fingers and sticking up for their party to see the system has completely corroded through.
Otherwise, it's the end of the road for this empire. Too big, too fat, and too ignorant of it's own situation. The end of the British and Roman empires come to mind, when I look at the situation in the U.S. right now.
Good thing is, those places rebuild themselves (or, perhaps in the case of the British) retooled themselves and have great countries now, though not the powerhouses they once were.
But, as for those who like to point fingers, I will remind Calgaryborn I will that Bush doubled the debt (give or take a few sig digits) during his time in office and inherited a much MUCH better situation than Obama did. So I may have even been more than fair when I said both parties should take equal blame. But I was trying to be fair, diplomatic, and positive.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...bt-under-bush/
And I'm done answering his question and will try to provide useful discussion.
I don't know how much I can add though. I truly believe the U.S. we know will not be around in the next 50-100 years. Just how closely it remains, and how painful or painless the shift is, is up to the people to decide.
I hope they play nice. At the end of the day, as much as we have to jump on it's back to keep the worlds remaining superpower honest, it's a great place filled with great people.
